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new arrow uk version complete uncut


the new arrow print in the uk is meant to be complete and uncut if so what is the 116 min (integral version)its like 6mins longer

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H.P.LOVECRAFT

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The Arrow Blu-ray/DVD is complete and uncut.I have the BD and it's an excellent edition of the film.

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kk thx

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H.P.LOVECRAFT

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i can also agree that the arrow BD is fantastic. probably the best version of the film out there.

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yeah i have it myself im just wondering what is the 116 min (integral version)they mention on the imdb page for it


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H.P.LOVECRAFT

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im not really sure but the arrow blurays running time is 116 mins.

the anchor bay (reissue) dvd from the tin box set is listed at 110 mins.

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yea thats prob ntsc/pal differences

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H.P.LOVECRAFT

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From what I understand, there are three versions of the film: 1) the heavily cut version released in America called Creepers 2) A longer 110 min. version released by Anchor Bay and 3) the longest cut, also known as the Integral Version, which is 116 min. and only available in Europe. I had the blu-ray from the UK which was the longer 116 min. version and there's more in it than the Anchor Bay version available here in America. I had the old Anchor Bay DVD and it's not just a PAL/NTSC difference--it has scenes missing. The bee scene in the car goes on longer in the Integral Version, the argument between Jennifer and Frau Bruckner in her house has more lines, and there's some other stuff as well. As far as I know, no English soundtrack was ever recorded for these scenes, so it switches to Italian dialogue with English subtitles when you watch it. The Anchor Bay version was English all the way through. The Integral Version is not the same, basically.

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i would like to see a work print or a version with all missing bits n bobs reinstated

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H.P.LOVECRAFT

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So, in the 30+ minutes they took out to make the American version, were there key plot points? Anything that ties the story together better? Anything Americans are missing?

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