Why do leftists refuse to see that the gov of Big Brother is leftist?

Left and right are basically arbitrary terms, invented during the French Revolution to deal with a far different situation. The real distinction is between elected government and dictatorship. Oceania is, of course, a dictatorship. As its model, Orwell cited Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany, the Chinese Empire, and the Spanish Inquisition -- the latter two are scarcely "leftist".

As for "small government", it has never worked and never will. Small government leaves a power vaccuum that will be filled by power-seeking private individuals who are not accountable to the people they rule. Its prophet, Thomas Jefferson, owned slaves, and I'm pretty sure that he didn't follow small-government principles when he forced them to work for him.

Having "socialist" in their title makes the Nazis no more socialist than calling North Korea democratic because the word is in their official title.

Nice post kingcrimson.

I despise both parties for different but equal reasons as at the end of the day IMO it is all a matter of what kind of lie you want to believe from politicians.

Put VERY simply, republicans will screw you over and hardly hide the fact...democrats will do the same but try hard to convince you they are your friend.

Same end result. All animals are created equal but some are more equal than others.

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Phhuuuleaseeee! All of those things you mention happened not just during the Repubs control of government but Clinton's time as well as Obamas. The Dems at times have control of the Whitehouse and all of Congress and the War on Drugs, or the Middle East, doesn't go away. War under Bush is evil but war under Obama is worthy of a Noble Peace Prize? Please inform us where the right has "lust crimes" enforced in America. It's not the right who pushes speech codes on US campuses or has violent protest and shouting down speakers to prevent free speech they disagree with. Revisionist history? ROFLMAO! Please point that out as you sound as you've never spent much time around liberal arts departments at US universities where the overwhelming majority of them are run by very left professors.

The only thing you do nail is how the GOP talks small government when out of power but act differently when in office. The GOP can be very intolerant and silly on social issues but your post sounds rather demagogic.

Craig
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The Republican party and Democratic party are not the same now as they were then. You would have to be a fool to use that as a defense for the Republican party. Pick your corruption and stick with it is really all there is to say. You want to know the biggest difference between the two parties? Right wings are power hungry and want to line their pockets and the best way is to sell you the consumer what ever it is they are selling at the time. Left wings are power hungry and want to line their pockets, but are also idealistic and think of tomorrow for all people instead of today oh and also they want you to again buy w/e it is they are selling.

The majority of voters don't really know what they want or need what they know is what planned out marketing techniques tell them the most powerful marketing technique since the dawn of time of course is word of mouth and that's the #1 technique that is employed to buy votes from you and me. Left wings aren't socialists so stop buying that moronic product the right wings have created.

To claim that Josef Stalin was from the left is an insult to intelligent thought. Soviet Union was as much a facist regime as it comes.

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Applied Science? All science is applied. Eventually.

I first read the book when I was 14 back in the 1980s. Back then, I read it as a strong indictment of communism.

Being older now, I'm able to understand the nuances a bit better and having read Orwell's war time letters, it's easier to understand his political worldview.

The Soviet Union did ally itself with leftists on an international level, but he was as much a murderous bastard that Hitler was (perhaps even worse). The difference between Stalin and Hitler is that the latter was a bit more explicit about his ways while the former knew how to confuse the left by preaching international solidarity.

The Soviet Union, like National Socialist Germany, definitely had left-wing economic policies. But the USSR and Nazi Germany were highly nationalistic, so they are really "right-wing" governments. Kind of like Communist China today, they call themselves socialist, but the economic system is really just a vehicle to advance and expand Chinese influence and nationalism. Just look at the Soviet version of "The Internationale", a song which preached universal brotherhood without borders and the lyrics were bastardized to promote Soviet nationalism.

Which begs the question, why the hell did Hitler attack the USSR? He surely must have been told a million times by his generals that he lacked the fuel to repeat the success he had in France and duplicate it in Russia. Hitler and Stalin were two peas in a pod--I read an anecdote where Hitler was the only human being that Stalin ever truly loved. In fact, after the war, Stalin regretted fighting with Hitler and he waxed nostalgically that he could have ruled the world with him if they remained allies.

Nazi's and liberals are very similar.

1) Nazi's executed jews, Liberals execute babies
2) Both Nazi's and Liberals use schools, institutions to indoctrinate people with leftist propaganda
3) Nazi's used to use entertainers and artists to push propaganda, you see the same thing today in movies by liberal actors
4) Nazis and liberals both go to extremes to silence any opposition
5) Nazi's and liberals both punished those who disagree with their agenda
6) Nazi's and liberals believe in gun control
7) Nazi's and liberals both love big government.

So you see, those are just minor examples. Nazi's and liberals are no different from each other, hence Nazi's = Left wing party.

The conservative, right-wing coalition of the Australian parliament is also lead by the "Liberal" party, however they use the term for their ECONOMIC ideology, certainly not their social justice ideology. The same goes for the Liberal Democratic Party of Japan.

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To the original poster, you're on crack, or just trying to get people worked up, but NOBODY is as blind and stupid as to believe what you're saying. Open your eyes.
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When people offer unsubstantiated insults instead of argument, it just unermines their own case by implying that they have no rational evidence to refute the other side. It's like the conservatives who think that offering random insults of the President advances their cause, when instead it merely makes them look stupid.