Nudity?
I planned on watching this with my parents, but I want to make sure there is no nudity, as to avoid awkwardness.
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you can sort of see Nancy's stunt double in the water but not really.
That being said, I'll say the typical response to when people post this kind of thing: Nudity is awkward but brutal murders aren't? You and your parents should get your priorities straight.
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>That being said, I'll say the typical response to when people post this kind of thing: Nudity is awkward but brutal murders aren't? You and your parents should get your priorities straight.
Did you post that old cliche as a joke? In any case, nudity is real, i.e., actual photographs of naked people, no different than what you see in e.g., a Playboy magazine. The violence is fake, i.e., special effects.
Still, why is nudity considered worse or more awkward than seeing violent acts real or fake? Whether the nudity is real or not is not the point here.
share"Still, why is nudity considered worse or more awkward than seeing violent acts real or fake?"
No, not "real or fake," simply fake. I replied to someone talking about violence in A Nightmare on Elm Street, which is a movie. Movie "violence" is fake, i.e., it's not really violence at all. It is worse because one is real and one is fake, as I already said. If it were a case of nudity vs. a "snuff film," the snuff film would be worse, obviously.
"Whether the nudity is real or not is not the point here."
No, not "real or not," simply real. And yes, it is the point. See above.
I don't really understand this argument. I know that the violence in movies is fake, but when watching a movie I don't go, "Oh that was fake, that character is just pretending to be dead" I totally consider violence to be worse.
Also, nudity isn't always real either. It wasn't Lena Heady's body during the walk of shame in GOT.
"I know that the violence in movies is fake, but when watching a movie I don't go, "Oh that was fake, that character is just pretending to be dead""
It doesn't matter what you say when watching a movie, the fact remains that it is fake and you know it's fake.
"I totally consider violence to be worse."
Except, it's not violence.
"Also, nudity isn't always real either. It wasn't Lena Heady's body during the walk of shame in GOT."
What are you talking about? It's real nudity whether it was Lena Headey, Rebecca Van Cleave, or anyone else that was nude. Do you think Lena Headey has some sort of monopoly on real nudity? Any human that's nude = real nudity, obviously.
If we are supposed to believe the story that is being shown to us, then the violence is real to the characters. It's no different than simulated sex which I may assume you feel is the same as nudity.
I have no problems with nudity, real or not. We all have naked bodies and should be able to relate. Nudity should not be shameful. Violence on film may not be real, but it sure can look real, and I find it incredibly sad that as a society it's more acceptable to watch some get their head blown off than to see a woman's breast, on film or in public.
I completely agree with this, Maxim.
I grew up watching horror movies. Starting at the age of 7 & onward. I always knew the violence was ”fake”, so it never bothered me. Actually it made me want to learn more about special fx.
But watching a movie with a lot of nudity in it, with my Mom, would be super awkward.
I don’t think the other person is fully understanding your point. No of course nudity isn’t bad. Of course real violence is awful. But in a movie, one is real (nudity) - the other is fake (violence).
I understand that. What I am lamenting is that we live in a society where nudity is considered shameful, yet emulating violence is not.
shareI know what you’re saying, but look at it this way. We’re humans & our stories have always involved some type of violence. Wrong or right, I’m not making a stand.
But, what do you think sounds more logical.
Kids going to see an action movie or whatever with fake violence/special fx, or the same movie with all the make up/fx scenes taken out & replaced with nude scenes... Which would be real nudity, not make up fx. Kinda odd, right?
If it were sexual then yes, might be odd, but nudity does not need be sexual. I'd rather children not be ashamed.
I'd also rather children not glorifying violence.
"Shame"
That is your cop out, made up excuse.
Keeping that private between a romantic couple and not for some titalation at a pervy director's whim is not "shame" but healthy boundaries.
The porn saturated, hook up generation wouldn't understand.
I'm hardly a member of the hook up generation, but I also don't see how nudity is something to be ashamed about.
I don't know where you are from, but gun violence killed 29 people this weekend in the US. There was a naked bike ride through my city, and guess what? No one died. No one was hurt. So you tell me which is healthier to emulate.
You keep using the word shame.
That is a red herring. It is BS.
I wouldn't want my wife to pose nude...not because of "shame" but because it is intimate and private.
Quit throwing out that BS, meaningless red herring term.
How is it a red herring?
Why wouldn't you want your wife to pose nude? You say it's intimate and private, and I am asking why? You keep telling me that it's a red herring. How is it a red herring? Do you feel that your wife's nude body belongs to you?
I use the term shame, because in Christianity Adam and Eve covered themselves with the fig leaves because they were ashamed to be naked. So yes, the puritanical society that we live in does assign shame to nudity.
Nudity and sex are different things. Breasts are designed to feed babies. That's all. It's sickening that that is something that should not be done in public because, heaven forbid, a nipple is visible.
You don't see shame, that's your opinion, but please don't try to convince me that there isn't an onus placed on women to cover our bodies and that there is no shame when a female is sent home from school for wearing something that exposes a collarbone.
I still stand by my point that emulating violence is much more damaging to society than showing a nipple.
nail. head.
well said.
I still don't think you're getting the point here.
shareIf my wife were an actress it would be a huge deal to go nude and do a sex scene...showing the film crew and world her intimate bits vs. some fake blood and fake wound.
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