Major Plothole


First of all, this is one of my favorite childhood movies and I still enjoy watching it from time to time. However I just realized a major plothole in the film. Evidently people from Rylos don't really die in the sense that humans die. Therefore, why didn't the other starfighters come back to help Alex? Was it because all the gunstars were destroyed as well? Couldn't they find some more gunstars at another base or off the assembly line? Wasn't there more starfighters than a handful idiotically placed in one base?

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The starfighters were recruited from many worlds because they had the "gift". The gift is so rare that there were only that handful of beings who qualified. They weren't natives of Rylos, so they didn't have the same life cycle of the "people" from Rylos. They were as alien to Rylos as Alex was, even though they seemed to take their recruitment better or were recruited earlier, as shown by the uniforms they were already wearing as well as their easier adoption of the "victory or death" chant started by the ambassador (I think that's what he chanted).

I get the sense that you're saying Rylosians don't die like humans die because of a couple scenes. The first is when Grig says death is a primitive notion and that Alex should think that the other starfighters have passed into another dimension. This seems more like a throwaway line about alien notions of spirituality than a statement about the potential of those blown up starfighters to return to our dimension. For all intents & purposes of the inhabitants of our dimension, those starfighters are dead & not coming back.

The other scene is where Centauri seemingly comes back from the dead, but then reveals that he didn't die, he went into hibernation so that his body could repair itself. Perhaps if the laser gun wound that Centauri received was more than the "stratch" that Centauri downplayed, his body wouldn't have been able to repair itself & he would've died. Anyhow, when he takes off his human disguise, Centauri is revealed to be of a different species than the Rylosians. Centauri looks like one of those Trade Federation aliens from the Star Wars prequels (remember the ones whose way of speaking was accused of being a racist representation of Asians?), while the Rylosians look mostly human except that all of them, male & female, seem to have male pattern baldness. The other starfighters are a bunch of different species so they probably don't have Centauri's regenerative power. Even if they did, it's doubtful they could regenerate themselves after being blown up.

Regarding the gunstars, perhaps the great betrayal by the Ambassador's son Xur had an adverse effect on Rylos' economy or means of production. If Xur was able to break down the frontier shield, maybe he was also able to break down the manufacturing of gunstars? This guess is probably off because the movie seems to suggest that those without the gift aren't worthy of operating a gunstar, so why make more gunstars than they have starfighters for? It's not a plot hole, but it is a major stretch to think that being able to control a couple joysticks to put the crosshairs on enemy spacecraft is such a rare skill.

I can live w/ these stretches and I like the (admittedly cheesy) movie, but the part that bothered me the most was the climax: the secret weapon of Alex' prototype gunstar. It didn't require the "gift" to press the button that made the gunstar spin rapidly & shoot everything in its parameter. Alex was just along for the ride at that point. This special weapon destroyed more enemies than did Alex' conventional skill of aiming & shooting the regular weapons. A more realistic "last resort" weapon that would've destroyed all of those enemies in range would've been a large bomb, but w/ Alex, Grig, & the prototype blown up, there wouldn't have been the Hollywood ending.

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'The Last Starfighter' refers to the Gunstars and not Alex. Indeed all of their Gunstars were destroyed in an attack...if it doesn't state it in the movie, then I believe it does in the book. Kind of a Pearl Harbor type deal where all the defending fighters were lined up in nice neat rows and taken out almost immediately in the surprise attack.

Alex is piloting the sole surviving Gunstar, and a Prototype at that. It's true that the special weapon capability made piloting skill unimportant - however it was intended that the Gunstar pilots would be flying the normal starfighters. Remember the flaw of the special weapon was that it could only be used once, and then you were out of ammo/energy/whatever. A truly last resort weapon.

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I haven't read the novelization but in the movie 'The Last Starfighter' definitely refers to Alex not the gunstar. There are a number of references to Starfighters being people.

When Ambassador Enduran addresses the recruits he says "we turn to you Starfighters and your navigators".

When Grig first meets Alex he says "my apologies Starfighter" when he accidentally knocks him down.

When Grig confronts Centari about recruiting from Earth he tells Centari that Alex doesn't "want to be a Starfighter".

Alex and Grig use the word "dead" not "destroyed" in their conversation about the Starfighters when they launch in the prototype gunstar.

And when Xur and Kril receive the incomplete message from the assassin sent to kill Alex, Xur incorrectly completes the message as "the last Starfighter is dead".

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'The Last Starfighter' refers to the Gunstars and not Alex.

Completely wrong. It's absolutely Alex. The pilots were called starfighters, the ships were called Gunstars, and the two shouldn't be mixed up. They never once referred to the ships as starfighters. There are so many lines confirming that, like the ones between Xur and the Kodan commander. "The last starfighter..." "Is dead! The last starfighter is dead! Nothing can stop us now." Dead, not destroyed. A person, not a ship. Grig saying, "My apologies, starfighter!" on first seeing his uniform. That is a title held in high esteem in the Star League.

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Minor correction. The Starfighters (at least Alex) were gunners, not pilots. Grig did all the flying.

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"'The Last Starfighter' refers to the Gunstars and not Alex."

Wow, possibly the wrongest statement in all of IMDB: Even if there was only one Gunstar left, The Last Starfighter refers to Alex.

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but the part that bothered me the most was the climax: the secret weapon of Alex' prototype gunstar. It didn't require the "gift" to press the button that made the gunstar spin rapidly & shoot everything in its parameter. Alex was just along for the ride at that point.


Then let it bother you no more.

Watching that scene again and I noticed something you missed.

Alex is in a rotating gun chair, capable of swiveling about to aim at off-axis targets.
However there were many points where the gun could not swivel far enough (up against the stops) and the body of the Gunstar itself blocked the shots.

Death blossom did not automatically fire the weapons, it just started the ship spinning rapidly in all three axis' simultaneously. This most certainly required Alex's "gift" to be able to target all the enemy fighters as the ship rapidly spun in three different directions at the same time, firing on each enemy is it was unmasked by the rotating ship.
Alex was still aiming and firing.






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Cool, thanks for the heads up. I'll watch it again

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If they're alive, they aren't alive in our universe. Remember, Grig said he prefers to think of them as fighting evil in another dimension. And really, I think that was just another way of describing the afterlife. Centauri is the only alien we see come back from the dead, and that was probably just something his species is capable of, not a trait that all Rylians and Starfighters share.

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Grig did say that the "Death Blossom" special weapon had not been tested prior to Zur and the Ko-Dan armada attacking and destroying the Star League base and slaying most of the Starfighters and Grig did say "Death Blossom" may overload the system and blow up the Starfighter. But it drain the Starfighter of power. Alex's Starfighter was an advanced prototype to the other Starfighters.

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Centauri wasn't a Rylan. The Rylans are the mostly-bald people who were the bulk of personnel at Starfighter Command. And there's a big difference between having an abdominal wound and being basically blasted to stardust. For instance, an earthworm can regrow itself if you slice it in half. Throw it in a campfire and it's literally toast.

Not a plot hole at all.

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amazing movie, but

why not just teach others to fly? i mean it didnt seem that hard to fly

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