Plot hole


Why no scenes of Daniel-san working out, lifting weights, running through the streets of Reseda? Are we supposed to believe Daniel-san can beat juice heads like Johnny by just twallking his unmeated bones at them?

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Mr. Miyagi believed in the power of the mind and getting an understanding of the basic techniques of karate over strength, power, endurance, etc. Plus I dont think they had time. It had to be already November by the time Daniel decided to enter the tournament which was in December.

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Ah, never paid attention to the time frame. Just one month, huh.

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One month isn't enough time to get into shape!!!

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Get in to shape?
He didn't need to get in to shape. He needed to learn how to block and counter.

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I agree wearsalan. We aren't talking about MMA here...It's karate...in a tournament you just need to get a hit and it's 1 point..

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Which is also practically impossible, so he had to resort to a cheap, illegal kick in the end.

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William Zabka WAS the real KARATE KID!!!

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Barney Stinson bros!

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What are you basing that on ?
If it was illegal it would not have scored.

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It's the goof that always comes up when people talk about the movie. It was an illegal move.
https://www.thewrap.com/ralph-macchio-karate-kid-crane-kick-cobra-kai-daniel-larusso/

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So because Ralph Maccio (who in real life knows next to nothing about Karate competitions) 'THINKS' it may have been illegal, then it is?
Bullshit!

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I didn't read the link but see by the url it's related to the reboot (and excellent) Cobra-Kai series.

Not saying this is the reason, but it would make sense for Ralph to throw a bit of controversy to Daniel's tournament win to help build some sympathy and motive for the Johnny character as well as to play into the plot's handling of the Daniel/Johnny dynamic.

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I agree with one of the comments left in that article:

[/quote]When did the ref ever say that kicks to the face weren't allowed? I watched the entire tournament sequence again and it is never stated. The only thing that wasn't allowed was a punch to the face (as demonstrated when Johnny punches Daniel in the face in the final match). In fact, Johnny gets his first point on Daniel by kicking him in the face, as well as a point earlier in the movie by kicking a guy in the face while holding his arm. Dutch also gets a point by kicking Daniel in the face, so there's a lot of precedent to show that kicks to the face were quite legal in that tournament.[/quote]
I don't think it's illegal since [spoiler]one of Johnny's students uses it early in the tournament and was never disqualified as far as I remember[/spoiler] in the Cobra Kai series.

Seems like a wimpy move to pull nowadays, lol.

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There were deleted scenes of Daniel pulling Boeing 747's at LAX and doing pull ups on the Hollywood sign before the All Valley tournament.

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LOL

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LOL @ "unmeated bones."

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His workout regimen consisted of being used as a slave by Miyagi, sand the floor, paint the fence, wax on, wax off. In Cobra Kai Daniel-san tries to impose the same training on new recruits and they tell him to piss off.

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People take this movie too literally without realizing that it's mostly symbolic.

Read some Zen koans to realize that this movie is also trying to display some Zen koans in an American setting. Miyagi's training techniques are not meant to be realistic, they're not meant to be authentic training techniques.

This movie is also not about training realistically for a tournament, any old movie can do that. This movie has a deeper message about the spirit, something you can't train by just lifting some weights or running around.

This movie is also not about fights or bullying.

It's about the kind of inner insights you get from seemingly ridiculous Zen training, and about the spirit, mind, strength of both, and so on. It's basically the 'subtle force' vs. 'pure muscle'. Having daniel lift weights and run around would just destroy the message.

You can read Bruce Lee's writings, you can read Zen koans, or you can watch this video:

(The Truth Behind Traditional Chinese KungFu)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gvGebn11sk

The point here is that pure muscle may win a lot, but when opposing a 'subtle force master', all it can do is tire itself and possibly injure itself, it can't even land a hit.

The training montages are basically 'westernized, modern Zen koan' moment, with student and sensei, kouhai and senpai, teaching something more everlasting, deeper and valuable, powerful and insightful than just 'how to rain muscles'.

Many people have problem with understanding that this movie is not about muscle training, it's about deeper spiritual lessons and understanding the core of what -really- wins fights, and in life. You can train your body to the max., and yet lose to a fighter with stronger spirit (I think this happened in some heavyweight boxing match, where someone a bit fat lost to a boxer with extremely trained body).

The tournament part is about strength and focus of the mind, not about physical training, muscles or the body.

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Daniel had injured, vulnerable, weak body (but also looked like an easy target, so the enemy might underestimate him, and that becomes his edge), but he had more focused, present-in-the-moment mind in the tournament.

Johnny had a strong, trained, prepared, skilled body, but his mind was full of chaos, rendering him hesitant and not-in-the-moment, and completely unprepared when it mattered.

Daniel's focused mind saw the opportunity and immediately used it, while Johnny's chaotic mind wasn't sure what to do and where to concentrate, and by the time he started making some kind of move, the fight had already been decided, as a chaotic mind can't beat a Zen mind.

So talking about weight training and running COMPLETELY misses the point.

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Nice posts.

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