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The many crimes and immoralities of Mr. Miyagi


Don't get me wrong.

I like Mr. Miyagi. He's exactly like the type of friend I wish I had. In fact had I been Daniel and met mr. Miyagi he would be my BFF. Despite being an expert in karate I too felt he was sort of broken and had suffered through a mill. But the old man really is a true friend. Fixes Daniel's bike for FREE, gives whole tray of bonsai trees to Daniel-San and Lucille, gives Daniel free car, gives Daniel free gi.

But Mr. Miyagi is also a bit odd and bizarre. Plus he has a few flaws.

I'm sure many people enjoyed the crimes and immoralities of Daniel-San.

But when I look at the first film, I consider Miyagi to be the most guilty person of crimes.

-Johnny Lawrence was just a hot head. Had things gone differently on the beach like Daniel backed off I think Johnny-San would have embarrassingly thanked and apologized to Daniel the next day at school for being the cool one. They would have probably been friends. After all Johnny wanted to make the most of his senior year.

-Dutch was just another hot head and I think someone who enjoyed it for the kicks.

-Kreese was misguided but honorable that he accepted Daniel into the tournament

-Daniel whilst I agree with the crimes given had it rough. He had just moved from NJ to CA.



But anyway w/o further a due here's my list against Mr. Miyagi.....

-Slacking off on job - Daniel tells him that their faucet is broken and he's there in his office trying to catch a fly with chopsticks. If he has operating hours he should post them. Things need fixing 1) the leaky faucet and 2) the swimming pool

-investigating Daniel-San's injury - Daniel of course lies about his injury but mr. Miyagi investigates it like questioning his lie. Fell off bike but not hurt hands??

-pushes Daniel-San into go to dance - when Daniel-San doesn't want to go to dance he tells him he's too much by himself not good. Daniel says he has him, but Miyagi says in order to make honey bee need young flower not old prune. Gee mr. Miyagi, you tired of Daniel-San already?

-makes Daniel huge costume after he said he wanted to be invisible man - gee didn't you have better costume? Instead of fulfilling his wish you made him most obvious costume that'd stick out like sore thumb.

-Seriously injures 5 bullies - karate for defense only. He saved Daniel. I thank him. But he really hurt them kind of bad. He gave one black eye and another an injured arm.

-drives w/o license - he drives a truck w/o a driver license.

-let's Daniel drive when he's an unlicensed driver - I might be guilty of this one too. But the laws for VA and NJ might be different. But I thought in order for a newbie to drive with an adult, that adult must have a license.

-has Daniel do back breaking work without telling him why until 5 days later

-didn't supply Daniel with eye goggles for sanding deck

-Didn't give Daniel fish after Daniel spent whole entire afternoon sanding deck

-does magical but medical treatment on Daniel's sore arm without asking Daniel first.

-refuses to tell Daniel his magical medical treatment

-Knocks Daniel-San into lake and then laughs about it

-breaks guys beer bottles

-gets stinking drunk on reminiscent night

-gives alcohol to Daniel-San who's a only 16

-laughs when Daniel chokes on alcohol

-gives Daniel car without proper paperwork, license, liability, and insurance papers

-Steals belt for Daniel-San

-doesn't know thing about tournament

-goes along with Ali and Daniel's lie about him not speaking English

-coaches Daniel-San without proper timeout.


Below is also included because it was originally supposed to be at the end of Part 1. Mainly being because it's also in the novel.

-causes Kreese to break a window from TWO DIFFERENT CARS

-leaves Kreese bleeding badly

-leaves scene of accident of TWO CARS BEING WRECKED.


I'll add more if I can think of more.






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-Slacking off on job - Daniel tells him that their faucet is broken and he's there in his office trying to catch a fly with chopsticks. If he has operating hours he should post them. Things need fixing 1) the leaky faucet and 2) the swimming pool

1) He could be on his break hence no rush.
2) For all we know the owner won't pay for the pool a new pump or whatever is wrong with it.
-investigating Daniel-San's injury - Daniel of course lies about his injury but mr. Miyagi investigates it like questioning his lie. Fell off bike but not hurt hands??

Investigates or points out Daniels is obviously lying?
-pushes Daniel-San into go to dance - when Daniel-San doesn't want to go to dance he tells him he's too much by himself not good. Daniel says he has him, but Miyagi says in order to make honey bee need young flower not old prune. Gee mr. Miyagi, you tired of Daniel-San already?

Not sure what you think is wrong with telling a kid that he should be enjoying himself with people his own age rather than spend all of his time with an old man.
-makes Daniel huge costume after he said he wanted to be invisible man - gee didn't you have better costume? Instead of fulfilling his wish you made him most obvious costume that'd stick out like sore thumb.

A crime, really. An error in judgement maybe, but certainly not a crime.
-Seriously injures 5 bullies - karate for defense only. He saved Daniel. I thank him. But he really hurt them kind of bad. He gave one black eye and another an injured arm.

He initially pushes Daniel to one side. The boys then attack him. What was Miyagi meant to do here, use harsh words?
-drives w/o license - he drives a truck w/o a driver license.

True.
-let's Daniel drive when he's an unlicensed driver - I might be guilty of this one too. But the laws for VA and NJ might be different. But I thought in order for a newbie to drive with an adult, that adult must have a license.

True.
-has Daniel do back breaking work without telling him why until 5 days later

Hardly a crime and there was a method here.
-didn't supply Daniel with eye goggles for sanding deck

You can't apply modern health and safety to 1984. Furthermore, Daniel wasn't using an electric sander.
-Didn't give Daniel fish after Daniel spent whole entire afternoon sanding deck

I don't feed my students after training either, how is that a crime?
-does magical but medical treatment on Daniel's sore arm without asking Daniel first.

So, if someone was to fall over in the street you would ask them first if it was alright to treat them? Wtf???
-Knocks Daniel-San into lake and then laughs about it

Irresponsible rather than a crime.
-breaks guys beer bottles

You mean after politely asking the guy to remove them from HIS car? The guy got off lightly.
-gets stinking drunk on reminiscent night

Jesus!!! The guy is heartbroken and you are calling him on getting drunk.
-gives alcohol to Daniel-San who's a only 16

No biggie. In France they give kids wine to drink with a meal. In UK the legal age to drink is 18. A crime, no. He didn't sell him the alcohol.
-gives Daniel car without proper paperwork, license, liability, and insurance papers

How is that a crime, he never sold him the car?
-Steals belt for Daniel-San

True.
-doesn't know thing about tournament

Again, hardly a crime. Plus he won didn't he?
-goes along with Ali and Daniel's lie about him not speaking English

No biggie. I mean if you look at part 3, you have Kreese, Silver and Snake there. Only one of them is the coach.
-coaches Daniel-San without proper timeout.

This is allowed in Karate competitions, hence Kreese and Silver shouting get the point to Barnes in part 3.
This next part is just laughable.
-causes Kreese to break a window from TWO DIFFERENT CARS

You mean as opposed to letting Kreese just hit him?
-leaves Kreese bleeding badly

What. You think he should have asked Kreese if he could treat him?
-leaves scene of accident of TWO CARS BEING WRECKED.

Wrecked? Really? Besides, why should he stay, it was Kreese who 'wrecked' the cars?
I'll add more if I can think of more.

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Slacking off on job - Daniel tells him that their faucet is broken and he's there in his office trying to catch a fly with chopsticks. If he has operating hours he should post them. Things need fixing 1) the leaky faucet and 2) the swimming pool
1) He could be on his break hence no rush.
2) For all we know the owner won't pay for the pool a new pump or whatever is wrong with it.


True but he should have said so.


-investigating Daniel-San's injury - Daniel of course lies about his injury but mr. Miyagi investigates it like questioning his lie. Fell off bike but not hurt hands??
Investigates or points out Daniels is obviously lying?


True


-pushes Daniel-San into go to dance - when Daniel-San doesn't want to go to dance he tells him he's too much by himself not good. Daniel says he has him, but Miyagi says in order to make honey bee need young flower not old prune. Gee mr. Miyagi, you tired of Daniel-San already?
Not sure what you think is wrong with telling a kid that he should be enjoying himself with people his own age rather than spend all of his time with an old man.


Daniel-San really didn't want to go. I wouldn't have if I was up in his shoes


-makes Daniel huge costume after he said he wanted to be invisible man - gee didn't you have better costume? Instead of fulfilling his wish you made him most obvious costume that'd stick out like sore thumb.
A crime, really. An error in judgement maybe, but certainly not a crime.


Not a crime just an immorality


-Seriously injures 5 bullies - karate for defense only. He saved Daniel. I thank him. But he really hurt them kind of bad. He gave one black eye and another an injured arm.
He initially pushes Daniel to one side. The boys then attack him. What was Miyagi meant to do here, use harsh words?


True you are right. Because it was Tommy Bobby get him.


-drives w/o license - he drives a truck w/o a driver license.
True.
-let's Daniel drive when he's an unlicensed driver - I might be guilty of this one too. But the laws for VA and NJ might be different. But I thought in order for a newbie to drive with an adult, that adult must have a license.
True.


Finally something we agree on but I'm just doing this for Fun.


-has Daniel do back breaking work without telling him why until 5 days later
Hardly a crime and there was a method here.


Just an immorality


-didn't supply Daniel with eye goggles for sanding deck
You can't apply modern health and safety to 1984. Furthermore, Daniel wasn't using an electric sander.


True again just poking fun


-Didn't give Daniel fish after Daniel spent whole entire afternoon sanding deck
I don't feed my students after training either, how is that a crime?


Immorality. He spent the whole afternoon and usually he seemed to let him help himself to his fridge. But again just poking FUN.


-does magical but medical treatment on Daniel's sore arm without asking Daniel first.
So, if someone was to fall over in the street you would ask them first if it was alright to treat them? Wtf???


Well if it was a life and death situation and they couldn't speak or were unconscious or were getting pummeled......that's different. But here nothing like that was happening.....Daniel could still easily and 100% coherently speak


-Knocks Daniel-San into lake and then laughs about it
Irresponsible rather than a crime.


Daniel could not maybe know how to swim.


-breaks guys beer bottles
You mean after politely asking the guy to remove them from HIS car? The guy got off lightly.


After review.....it has been determined they had their beer bottles on HIS TRUCK. Darn I had thought it was their truck and they just made a slur comment. But yeah I should be taking this one out.


-gets stinking drunk on reminiscent night
Jesus!!! The guy is heartbroken and you are calling him on getting drunk.


True. But He should have foretold Daniel that this was a reminiscing night in advance. Again not a crime but just poking FUN.


-gives alcohol to Daniel-San who's a only 16
No biggie. In France they give kids wine to drink with a meal. In UK the legal age to drink is 18. A crime, no. He didn't sell him the alcohol.


This isn't UK. It's USA.


-gives Daniel car without proper paperwork, license, liability, and insurance papers
How is that a crime, he never sold him the car?


Since I don't drive, I'm not sure with how the system works. But I still think that when you GIVE someone a car there has to be paperwork and liability transfers. You don't know how often (like at least once a week) we get a situation like that in the office......well I don't want to say too much here but you can PM me for more details.


-Steals belt for Daniel-San
True.


Good.


-doesn't know thing about tournament
Again, hardly a crime. Plus he won didn't he?


Again just poking some fun.


-goes along with Ali and Daniel's lie about him not speaking English
No biggie. I mean if you look at part 3, you have Kreese, Silver and Snake there. Only one of them is the coach.


Good. Now we need to stuff this in the Daniel-San haters faces. Although technically Silver/Kreese were teachers but I don't think Snake was. And was Dennis there???


-coaches Daniel-San without proper timeout.
This is allowed in Karate competitions, hence Kreese and Silver shouting get the point to Barnes in part 3.


Stuff it in their faces.


This next part is just laughable.
-causes Kreese to break a window from TWO DIFFERENT CARS
You mean as opposed to letting Kreese just hit him?


Just poking fun.


-leaves Kreese bleeding badly
What. You think he should have asked Kreese if he could treat him?

-leaves scene of accident of TWO CARS BEING WRECKED.
Wrecked? Really? Besides, why should he stay, it was Kreese who 'wrecked' the cars?


Miyagi is a witness.

But again just having sum fun.



I'll add more if I can think of more.
Please do, i enjoy a good chuckle!!!!


I'll do Chozen next I think.



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1/2) Why?
Daniel did want to go. He even says if he could be invisible. Sure the costume did the opposite but he still wanted to go.
Hardly an immorality helping or trying to help him go to the dance.
How is teaching him Karate through tasks that forge muscle memory an immorality?
True Daniel could speak but he hardly objected and Miyagi did help the problem.
The water was only waist deep. Miyagi knew this as he fished there regularly.
I'm saying that you're making a big deal of the alcohol thing yet even in the USA kids often partake though underage. The movie is as much about teen life as anything. We even see Johnny smoking pot on the toilet!
He can give Daniel the car. But for Daniel to legally own it he needs the pink slip and ownership would have to be transferred to him. But that doesn't stop Miyagi giving him a car.
Silver wasn't there as a coach. You only have one coach.
Already have
There are plenty of witnesses
Look forward to the Chozen one!

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He was borderline psychotic and should not have near karate students

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Miyagi singing to Yukie

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