Racist crap.


It's funny, a lot has been said about the supposed racism of golden age hollywood movies but I have to say that the Scorcese/Spielberg last 50 years are even more racist. Films like King Kong, SHE, Island Of Lost Souls, The Most Dangerous Game actually showed the 'savages' with a degree of reverence and awe, unlike this crap film that uses them as stupid jokes. This film has aged SO BADLY, and nearly all from that period have done so too. For instance now John Hughes films are being lambasted for their explicit rapey fantasies. And that's how it'll go, that period will not stand up to scrutiny.

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I don't think it was that racist. They showed the villain as Evil Lord with dark magic stuff so they have to add certain things like monkey brain as desert, eating snakes etc. Many pulp stories of 30's used be like this with stuff like hidden temple, cult, magical artifacts.

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Golden Age films were less racist than films of the 70's and 80's? You mean the period where blackface and yellowface were acceptable and cowboys were always killing those savage Indians? Sure.

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It's not racist. It's fiction. Good Guys vs Bad Guys.

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*Everything* is racist... Even the word "racist" is now racist. The fact that I responded to a racist thread makes me a racist.

The next Websters will list the definition of racist as a neutered word that no longer has a definable meaning. It will be more of weaponized word used by simple minded folk who can't muster a reasonable argument against something they don't like.

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I agree that the movie has aged well but not for a racist reason. If you have been to India or even looked at their press (not ours, their), you would know that pretty much anything depicted in the movie, save for the actual magic stuff, still happens in there to this day. The poor villages, the slave labour, the evil lords, the caste system (which stopped existing only on paper).

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I cannot stand people who bitch & moan about movies being racist. It takes an extremely whiny, uptight individual to be griping about movies being racist. Well guess what? There are ugly things in life. You can't go around bitching about that don't meet your definition of political correctness. What next, ban all old movies? I am sick of people like you!

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Let's see how that logic flows. There are people out there who complain that certain movies are racist. You complain about the people who complain about the movies. Which is the greater eyesore, a movie which has pretty good representation all over the world, or people who complain about them, limited to individual message boards? If it takes an extremely whiny, uptight individual to be griping about movies being racist, then it takes an individual many times more whiny and uptight to complain about those people.

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I have found this to be the greatest irony about New Hollywood movies. We grew up being taught that these movies were oh, so racist, sexist, etc. But in many ways New Hollywood films were far more offensive, and they did it in a way that was very underhanded, by hiding it under a veneer of fantasy as in, "How can this be racist or sexist? This is all pure imagination."

The Phantom Menace (which I actually like) is a classic example. It's very obvious that some of the alien species were based on dated stereotypes of ethnic groups, like Wattoo and the Neimodians.

Same thing with the Ferengi of Star Trek. I'm too lazy to post the link but someone found an old antisemitic cartoon from the 1930s depicting Jews, and the design of the Ferengi look exactly like it.

In the case of this movie, I suppose the blatant racism was expected to be excused as "pure fantasy" and therefore not to be taken seriously. *shrugs*

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When I saw the first Harry Potter I was shocked by the "gremlins' or whatever they were supposed to be, who were the "bankers." Typical antisemitic caricatures.

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I never saw the HP films, but I looked what you were saying up and many articles came up seeing the same thing about the goblins. But the issue gets worse beyond their appearance--apparently, there are stars of David all over the floor on one scene at the bank: https://youtu.be/DwC6IFi6RuU, at the 0:16 mark!

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STFU you woke prick.

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To the point and well said.

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Yep, thats when the most succesful and best movies were made. Instead of braindead content noone is willing to pay for. And this movie is about a cult! Even a cult with historical roots. So go and consume your content. Thats the only thing left for you, cause you wont get anything else anymore. And thats only your fault!

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And this movie is about a cult! Even a cult with historical roots.

That's the problem. The Thuggee was a real sect, but there is nothing historical with how Temple of Doom depicts them.

The dinner scene is particularly bad, because here we have the Thuggee pretending to be Hindus of a regular variety, and yet we get this obscenely gross banquet. And none of the guests finds this the least bit odd. There is nothing remotely resembling Indian cuisine, yet that is how it is presented.

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Oh for crying out loud, the people doing what you deem to be racist are the people WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ROOT FOR

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Please read what I wrote. The dinner scene is presented as perfectly normal Hindu fare.

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No it isn’t, that’s why Willie, Short Round and Blummbert were disgusted. Only the villains enjoyed the dinner.

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Willie, Short Round and Blummbert weren't natives, were they?

Besides, Blummbert was not disgusted. He simply refrained from eating the things he did not like, but he acted as this was perfectly normal.

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Watch his facial expressions as the eel tries to slither next time him, he is clearly disgusted but holds it back because he's trying not to be rude.

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Thats why its called a cliché, dumbhead! Its used in movies cause its a common denominator.

Ever thought about thos tons of Boolywood movies were the people of Switzerland were shown as yodeling fools? Were there ever any protest from woke fascists that this is cultural appropriation? Or whatever terms you fascists are using to fight society.

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Thats why its called a cliché, dumbhead! Its used in movies cause its a common denominator.

A cliché is something which has been used and reused so frequently that it has become trite. The dinner scene was not a Hindu cliché, as there is no such precedent.

Of course, if it were a cliché, it would have been even worse, as clichés are precisely what racism is built on. So the dinner scene was not deliberately racist - however, it does play into the trope that non-white natives are savages, which is a cliché.

Ever thought about thos tons of Boolywood movies were the people of Switzerland were shown as yodeling fools? Were there ever any protest from woke fascists that this is cultural appropriation? Or whatever terms you fascists are using to fight society.

You're comparing Hollywood with Bollywood? How many non-Indians watch Bollywood movies? If they present the Swiss as yodelling fools, then that is, of course, racist. Feel free to protest them all you want. Personally, I choose only to criticise things I already know something about, and I've never watched a Bollywood movie in my life. The real issue here is, why do I have to explain this to someone who is clearly old enough to read and write?

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You have anything better to do than cry about a movie made 38 years ago? I'm Italian look how they depict us in movies and commercials. Get over it, if you don't like it don't watch it.
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You have anything better to do than cry about a movie made 38 years ago?

Then what are YOU doing here?

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I look for all the people who get upset about fictional things, and let those things affect their way of life. So that's why I'M here.

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So you are actively looking for things to be upset about?

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No I'm actively looking for people on message boards who get upset over the most ridiculous things.

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Which means you are actively looking for things to be upset about. Case in point: you're the one who actually got upset here.

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No, quite the opposite. I'm in a great mood when I look for people crying over fictional movies. Makes.me happy that people can become miserable over something so ridiculous. Have a wonderful night and try not to be so upset over fiction.

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That doesn't really scan, does it? Your very first post here, you were crying about other people crying. Your reply was to me, who do not find this movie offensive, but explained why there are elements which may be considered offensive by others. This has been projection on your side, and a pretty transparent attempt at saving face - but you can't even get your story straight.

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Please copy and paste in my first post where I was crying, please. Now let's count how many posts where you are bitching and moaning like a little pussy about fictional characters hurting your delicate feelings. I just reread my post and I see me calling you out for crying🤣
Please tell me what I'm trying to save face from, you? Haha now that's transparent kari.
So just keep crying, you're bound to find someone to wipe your tears, and put your head on their shoulder, and tell you everything is going to be alright. 👍🏾

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- No, a cliche isnt racist. Its just a common code that all people understand. Noone beside you thinks for a second that all indians are eating monkey brain all day for real!
- Millions of people outside India watching Bollywood movies. They are full of cliches and therefor easy fun to watch and enjoy. Its one of the fastest growing movie industries out there. And no, noone from Switzerland even gives a sh*t about this cliches they are using in there movies. Cause ..... its a cliche, not reality! Learn to differ thos two things. Cause they have nothing in common at all.

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No, a cliche isnt racist.

That depends entirely on the cliché. Not all clichés are racist, but racism is based on stereotypes - in other words, clichés.

Noone beside you thinks for a second that all indians are eating monkey brain all day for real!

Are you dense? For you to make any sense you should have said: "No one beside you thinks for a second that *I* think all Indians are eating monkey brain all day for real". It would still have been a monstrously stupid thing for you to say, but at least miles more intelligent than what you did say.

To spell it out: I specifically pointed out that the dinner scene is NOT a cliché. The cliché lies in the notion that non-white natives are savages. Remember, the dinner scene was presented as NORMAL. It was not a Thuggee dinner. It was presented as something the white non-natives would perceive as par for the course in that region. The fact that hardly anyone would actually think this is the sort of food that Hindus would eat, is irrelevant. No one actually thinks black people are monkeys either, but such a comparison is nevertheless racist.

Millions of people outside India watching Bollywood movies.

Almost exclusively Indian students and ex-pats.

Its one of the fastest growing movie industries out there.

For one of the fastest growing populations. Globally, it's extremely niche.

And no, noone from Switzerland even gives a sh*t about this cliches they are using in there movies.

Your comparisons are beyond ridiculous. First of all, I doubt if as many as 1000 Swiss are even aware of Swiss portrayals in Bollywood movies. Second, the Swiss are hardly a marginalised minority.

its a cliche, not reality!

"The Eternal Jew" is also cliché, and not reality. Doesn't make it any less offensive, does it? The thing about clichés is that they are believed. Not by everyone, of course, but the dumber they come, the more literal they are going to take those clichés. Like white folks can't dance, black people have lower intelligence, men are worse at multitasking, women are bad drivers etc. etc. I don't think we'll have to dig very deep to find some clichés you believe to be true, either.

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