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Why did he get upset when they didn't go to Paris


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I haven't seen this film in a few years, but after seeing it several times I have one nagging question about it. Originally, they are heading towards Paris, and Terence Stamp is very calm and relaxed in the car, playing head games with Tim Roth and John Hurt. But then when Hurt decides not to wait to kill Stamp but kill him near where they are, Stamp gets all upset and agitated. Was he thinking that he was to be rescued along the way or something else would happen when they got to Paris? Does anyone have an insight to this? I know I need to see it again but any help with this would be greatly appreciated!!!


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yeah i wonder too.

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I think that he just breaks down. The whole movie he's calm and seemingly unafraid of his imminent death but then when the moment comes he freaks. If you notice he looks away and utters "Oh God" when he realizes Bradock is going to shoot him. To me that "Oh God" was basically his realization that at the moment of truth he was scared, despite the last 10 years of convincing himself otherwise. I believe that the director wants us to then look at how Bradock dies with a smile and wink. Despite the turbulence around him he manages to die with a smile while Willie- who seemingly had it all figured out- dies running in fear for his life. That is just how I saw it. I have to say that the last few minutes took me off guard. What a great movie.

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Fonze , yes , it caught me off guard
but I had the same theory as you did.

Perhaps he thought he could get more prepard to die

when getting near to Paris . and this moment comes
as a surprise as well as causing the reaction which
you describe so well.

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Well stated, on the money. Fantastic film.

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At first, i´d like to apologize, if my english is not so good ;-)

I am quite d´accord to what fonse and christoper-arnold wrote.
Still, Willie Parker´s behaviour throughout the whole story is quite puzzling for the hitmen and for us as well. I was wondering for quite a long time, why Willie seems so cool and nevertheless breaks down in the end. Then I read one day, that Stephen Frears was inspired to do this movie by the thesis of the late psychologist Elisabeth Kübler-Ross, who claimed, that every human being passes through certain stages while percepting the fact of its own death. These phases are: 1. Denial 2. Anger 3. Bargaining 4. Depression 5. Acceptance. ( here an adress of a website where these stages are explained in detail: http://www.army.mil/aeioo/tm/models1.htm o.k. it´s from the army, but it´s quite descriptive...) The stages do not necessarily have to come one after another, a person might also "fall back" in example from the stage of bargaining to the stage of denial and so on.
I think this might be the key to Willie´s strange behaviour. There is just one question... Was Willie already accepting the fact of his death and "broke down", which means he fell down to a lower stage, or was he maybe all the time still denying? Was he maybe passing through all the other stages in ultra-speed when facing the barrel of Mr. Braddock´s gun? As we remember - when taken out of the car, he uttered at first: "What? Me too? NO...it´s tomorrow" (= denial), then, fouriously: "But You HAVE to bring me to Paris" (=anger), then, pleadingly : "But You have to fullfill Your order" (=bargaining)After that: "oh, god"( =maybe still bargaining, this time with god, not with the killer, or maybe already depression).
Maybe it is just an overinterpretaion, but I like the idea :)
What do You think?

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Thanks for all the insight, and parze, I loved the stages of facing your own death. That brings the point home so well and I think is truly what the director was going for. Thanks! Now I have to see this again!


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All very insightful and valid comments. Without intellectualizing it to death, I think Willie would have accepted his impending demise IF it had fit into his conceptualization of the big picture. (Remember his extensive library -- heady stuff for a small time hood.) Paris had been promised to him and he accepted his fate -- as long as he could complete the (destiny's) full circle. We can never know how he might have behaved in that case, of course, but having had that prospect cruelly snatched away left him confused, panicked, and frightened. Quite a thought provoking film. It contrasts nicely with Stamp's performance in "The Limey."

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dlclaytor-1, I agree entirely w/ your conclusion... and I was contrasting it with "The Limey" while watching it as well!

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I met Terence Stamp at a book signing some years ago (nice bloke BTW) and asked him about this. He told me Willy did not realise that he had slept through the night - which is why he says 'no it is tomorrow' (that he expects to be 'hit'), not realising that it now is in fact 'tomorrow'. Although Willy has accepted his execution when it comes he is thrown by the fact that it does not fit the scenario he believed would happen - that he would go to his death in Paris in front of the boss he betrayed.
Willy tries to run away not because he is frightened but because he wants his death to be a statement to his ex-boss that he is not afraid to die and has accepted it.
But why would the hitmen go to all the trouble of hiring local thugs to kidnap him, (then have to dispose of them), before the extra hassle of transporting Willy to his pre-planned death in the hills? It would make more sense and be less risky to assassinate him at home. Real life logic, of course, wouldn't make for such an entertaining movie.

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Saw the movie when it first came out, and have just watched again on dvd. I agree that Willy wanted to make a statement to his former boss, in effect robbing him of his revenge by being cool at the point of death. (Possibly also he may have believed he could somehow kill Corrigan and escape). This would explain why he got upset.

However, it is clear that Braddock's plan all along was to kill Willy and Myron before crossing the border, he had the backpack and disguise all ready. He wouldn't want a loose unit like Myron around.

Wasn't quite sure why Braddock let Maggie live. This directly caused his own demise, perhaps he saw a real spirit in her he admired, and having had the discussion with Willy, didn't care that much whether he lived or died himself.

Cool movie.

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The novelization makes a clear reference to the fact that Braddock has enlisted Myron's help with the intention of killing him when the Willie Parker job is completed. Myron has been brought along as a very disposable assistant - he was instructed by Braddock not to let anyone back in the UK know where he was going (ie to Spain).
I agree with toybooy about Braddock's decision to let Maggie live - I think it is because she has shown 'spirit' that he doesn't kill her. He could have 'taken care' of her when they went to the garage station for petrol or even earlier after he killed the Australian in the apartment. Once he is dead there is no real reason to take Maggie along.

Maybe Willie was right all along - maybe the job was getting Braddock down.

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While struggling with Maggie the pistol was fired into the air. Right after he knocker her out Braddock says 'You lucky girl.'. I took that to mean he ran out of bullets and since she was now unconscious he would let her live. He planned to be over the border and on his way before she would have awoken and walked to the nearest house/business/etc. Of course one could argue that he could have located Myron's pistol that he threw down the hill but he seemed to be in quite a hurry to get over the border. He knew the police were closing in quickly.

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Well if you notice, Willie sings the song "We'll meet again" several times during his capture, the same song the betrayed gang sings to him in the court room at the beginning...

that's the biggest clue that he wanted to killed in front of his old boss...he's cool about dying, as long as it's in front of his former boss and he gets to spite him by not being afraid. He's been anticipating it all along, that's why he kept singing that song.

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how cool! you met terence stamp! and that does make sense now. thx.



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If you were to break it down like that I think you would have to say that the Australian was Denial, and Willie was Bargaining.

The Australian said he hadn't read the newspaper, that he didn't know Braddock was on a job. He denied knowing anything.

Willie is the bargainer, that is the whole reason he is wanted dead. They ask him why he turned his friends in and he said it is because he got a really good deal.

You could make the argument Maggie is anger.

I don't think the characters display only one trait, I think they all display different traits at different parts of the movie. Good comment by parze.

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Excellent!

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Because this movie is just plain stupid.

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Stamps character was all about façade. Yes, he had had time to prepare for the moment and yes, he was playing the part. Up to a certain point, but then when death became tangible instead of some future possibility, he showed his true colours. He was scared.

Now compare this to how John Hurts character faces his end. He is the true existentialist here, prepared to accept the consequences of his actions, not Stamp.


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I saw this in a much simpler vein. Willy was simply biding his time trying to get Myron to kill Braddock by suggesting the latter was unstable, etc. Perhaps Willie WAS ready to face his ex boss and die in Paris but he was also trying to patch together some sort of getaway. The moment Braddock alters the plan and says "it IS tomorrow" etc, Willie reacts the way anyone would when realizing he has just run out of time and the outcome being unexpected. Myron doesn't even get the chance to help. This fits in with Terence Stamp's own assessment from the previous poster.

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Do not forget that he had the opportunity to escape, that he did all but escape, but waited for them to come get him. In this light he comes off as a by the numbers sort, one who wants things to proceed as they are ordained to proceed. Irregularities are not tolerated well.

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Because this movie is written and directed like a middle school kid wrote a sreenplay. Don't look for symbolism, there isn't any.

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THAT is what a middle-school kid would say!

:P

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