Lori Singer


Am I the only one who thought Lori Singer's role in this movie was thankless and pointless and the movie would not be of any lesser quality without the presence of her character?

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Why was it pointless? Boyce had a cutie girlfriend
and was puling all this stuff on the sly.
In the end, as the FEDS creeped in, Boyce had to get real
and tell her what was going on.
Thankless? What does that mean? That word is usually reserved
for people in low-paying positions that exert a lot of time and energy.
How does it apply here?


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I refer to her role in the film as thankless because it did nothing to progress the story in anyway. The character was not in any way integral to the plot. We never saw Chris making excuses for being late for dates or cancelling dates or being caught developing the film or sending anything to Daulton by her. And even when Chris knew the jig was up, he still didn't tell her anything he just warned her that people would be asking her questions and that she could honestly say she didn't know anything. These scenes didn't add anything to the movie for me. Not to mention the fact that Lori Singer is a bad actress.

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It doesn't matter if you don't think her character adds anything to the plot. This is based on reality, and she was part of that.

Anyway, the scenes do add something. They show more about how his covert activities impact on his regular life.

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It didn't make the picture better. But it didn't hurt it either.

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I totally agree with you.

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Hmm...she was ok...actually I think she and Timothy looked cute together, I loved it when Sean's Daulton tells Tim's Chris to "get rid of her" and meet him him to they could go over things...and he (Chris just ignores him)...

BTW...is this out on DVD? I just saw it yesterday on cable and I would love to buy a copy on DVD...

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I first saw this movie in the mid-1980s on cable. I also remember watching it in the Fall of 1989 when one of the three original networks (ABC, CBS, NBC) showed it as their Sunday night movie. I also caught it again on cable in the late 1990s.

I was happy to see it was on cable this Sunday as I remembered the great performances by Hutton and Penn. I sat down to watch it with a friend of mine and had completely forgotten that Singer's character was even in the film until she showed up. She had a decent amount of screen-time, but didn't add anything to the story other than one brief scene where Chris acts like he wants to tell her what is going on with him, but he runs out of his apartment. Other than that, her character was (in my case, literally) forgettable.

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I think she was excellent and definitely belonged in the movie. Her presence added depth and dimension to the whole film. She helped to show Boyce's personal and emotional life and allowed him to be seen as a more fully developed character. She also showed what his life could have been and what he ended up losing.

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I thought her presence was important in developing Chris's character.

He had fallen in love with her, developed a close and meaningful relationship, but he's still able to maintain the discipline of not sharing one shred of his work and 'other' life with her. This speaks volumes about his character, especially when juxtaposed with Penn ... who becomes the ultimate farce up who can't keep his mouth shut and who you see telling total strangers who he wants to impress what he's actually doing. His interactions also demonstrated that he really meant what he said about falling in love with her, as he was willing to break up with her and tell her he didn't love her anymore despite being most vulnerable and needing someone to talk to when he felt his world was about to collapse. That he was able to so ruthlessly end their relationship and demand she take her things and go immediately so as to minimize any risk of her being successfully accused/prosecuted of being an accomplice. This reveals him to be ten times the man that Penn's blathering boy idiot character was who didn't think of anyone but himself and ultimately narced out his best friend.

You would *think* that as a successful big time drug dealer that Penn would know how to be more discreet, especially considering his 'loose lips' not only jeopardized his own livelihood but that of his childhood best friend. Sadly, Penn's character had such low self esteem that it was more important to brag about what he was doing to total strangers to him that to shut up because of the greater ramifications. Indeed he had gone off the deep and become unreliable, and was the weak link in the entire affair.

If he hadn't been such an unpredictably loose cannon and ticking time bomb, the Soviets wouldn't have dropped him like the plague. He became a liability despite providing intelligence that they were willing to pay for.

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Good analysis, however the main reason the Soviets dropped Boyce and Lee was because the CIA was onto them and was providing misinformation ("Basura") and the Russians knew it.


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You're not. Hutton's female coworker has more dialogue. Singer's character is almost a nonentity. I get that she was suppose to be his connection to life's simplicity and innocence but still, she should have gotten at least a bit more to work with.

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watching it right now. I guess becaue she is Lor Petty we would want her in a bigger role. But honestly why even have a girlfriend?



I apologize for grammatical errors- a side effect of IMDbing on my iPhone.

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Lori Singer's character was probably created so no one would think the Falcon and the Snowman were homosexual lovers. I am not joking. Movies are like that. Many girlfriends and wives in movies are strictly window dressing.

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Yes, that could very well be true. I've heard of several other movies where that was done; even buddy-buddy comedies. A similar example is how they wrote John Nash's bisexuality out of "A Beautiful Mind" as they thought that some audience members might be put off from the movie as a whole because of it, or they might think his mental illnesses were caused by homosexual contact.

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Lori Singer's character was probably created so no one would think the Falcon and the Snowman were homosexual lovers.
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I had that notion myself and I agree that it is something that is done to pander to the bigoted and simpleminded sheep in the audience. For a film like this, which was not exactly geared to be a mainstream box office bonanza and Penn is a ugly, as Hutton is cute, I don't think they needed have worried. However, I don't think that Boyce's character was gay and while there is every possibility that he may have been 'bi' and the director was openly gay, I would say that is irrelevant to what the theme and point of the film was. It's just like Schlesinger's MIDNIGHT COWBOY-69', where people claim that Ratso and Joe were gay for each other. While I don't doubt Joe's bisexuality, I don't get or see a homosexual connection for their characters.

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She wasn't necessarily a great actress, but her role was not a big enough role anyway, so it doesn't matter.
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No, she isn't a great actress and I doubt she could even be considered just passable as a good one. However, I agree that it didn't really matter, since it was just the standard, peripheral, obligatory girlfriend to the male lead role. If the role had been more important and relevant to the narrative, then a stronger actress may have been needed. She was also a reasonably popular name, due to FOOTLOOSE-84', from the previous year and also FAME-tv series.

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