Did Stephen King like it?


Does anyone know if Stephen King liked this movie or not?

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i remember reading something about him saying that he didnt like it.

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He doesn't like most of his stories' adaptations as general. That's because his work is not very suitable for movielization. When you read some of his novels and stories, you see that it is told not much as a narrative that could be directly converted into pictures, but more rather as spiritual and visceral tell, which tickles your own imagination an interpretation of it. In other words-we feel it, not see it.

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What I have read of his work seems very cinematic, from the dialogue to the narrative flow. I think the problem lies more with the fact that some of the directors have lacked the skill to portray horror effectively. By the way where did you find the word "movielization"?

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Coined it. Probably.

Anyways, I second that. Most stories can be adapted onto film but it comes down not only to its director but also on the screenplay on which it will be working around on.

A good screenplay is the genesis of whether the outcome will be good or bad, imo.

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Indeed. His books almost read like books to already existing movies. This seems to lure screenwriters and directors into the trap of not putting enough effort into creating a suitable style. Often, like in COTC, there is just a theme copied, while leaving out the implications, concerning content as well as general style, which then results in something feeling like a straight-to-video production.

I like how Stand By Me instead took an idea and ran with it, coming up with something beyond the original, although reflecting its content.

Same goes for The Shining: a great movie, leaving out the horror-wankery-parts which clearly would not have worked on screen (as the TV adaption proves) of the book and focussing on one clear idea.

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Stephen King didn't like many of his movies.

Among them were The Shining, Christine, Children of The Corn.

I personally love the 1984 movie though. It's got a great atmosphere and keeps me on the edge of my seat, especially after the cafe scene at the start. A great way to hook an audience!!

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I own a book called "The Films of Stephen King" and in it, it has reviews from King on all of the movies made from his books. This is what it says about COTC.

"My feeling. . . (for most movies made from his books) is like a guy who sends his daughter off to college. You hope she'll do well. You hope she won't fall in with the wrong people. You hope she won't be raped at a fraternity party, which is pretty well what happened to Children of the Corn."

--From an interview with Stephen King by Craig Modderno, Published in USA Today, May 1995

So evidentally he hated it.

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LOL, I haven't gotten around to seeing it, but it sounds a lot like a rip-off of the Star Trek episodes Miri and And the Children Shall Lead, with some gore added for good measure.

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That quote makes me love Stephen King that much more!

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"My feeling. . . (for most movies made from his books) is like a guy who sends his daughter off to college. You hope she'll do well. You hope she won't fall in with the wrong people. You hope she won't be raped at a fraternity party, which is pretty well what happened to Children of the Corn."


So I'm guessing...that he didn't like it?

Hard to tell here ;)

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Who could like this movie? It took a creepy little short story and tore it apart. I saw it in a theatre way back in 1984. At first the audience was quiet and getting into it but the movie slowly (VERY slowly) got stupider and stupider and finally people were laughing at it by the end! King hated this but he hated "Graveyard Shift" even more.

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Well, to be honest I thought that this movie did a better job than the original story in terms of giving character to the children. The book was much more focused on the couple.

However, the terrible special effects and the overly cliched Hollywood happy ending are the main bad things in the film. It starts out strong and is pretty entertaining throughout, up until those HORRIBLE special effects that really shouldn't have been in the movie at all.

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"However, the terrible special effects and the overly cliched Hollywood happy ending are the main bad things in the film."

I saw the remake last night, and it definitely did NOT have a "Hollywood happy ending". How did the original end?

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Well, I haven't seen the TV movie remake.

This one had an ending where Burt and Vicky both live, defeat He Who Walks Behind The Rows, and live happily ever after with the two "good" kids.

I slew your king, I slew your country. Do these deeds not demand vengeance?
-Judge Gabranth

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In the TV remake, Burt and Vicky are both killed (she's killed early and he's killed at the end) & put up in the field with the "blue man", and Malachai gives himself to the cornfield

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It sounds like the tv remake used the original story's ending.

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Actually buddy, millions of people love this 'little' movie! Evidently it has struck a chord with the public considering that it's the longest running series of any Stephen King adaptation. And the story was a very average and unremarkable bit of bedtime reading, which didn't translate well to the screen. And most people despise the remake. In fact, after the remake was released people have started to realise that this movie isn't actually as bad as they originally thought. It certainly took skill to make this movie into a classic. And remember that this movie cost $800,000 to make...Stephen King then pocketing 500,000 of that for doing nothing and then preceeded to slate the filmmakers efforts, just as he had done with Kubrick a few years earlier.

PS: Another thing you might want to remember: Stephen King directed 'Maximum Overdrive', therefore he's not in a position to critize other filmakers!

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So--"Children" is good because its sequels sucked? Sorry but no. Just cause sequels suck (and most do) it doesn't automatically make the original a classic.

You're right--King's "Maximum Overdrive" was terrible (he would agree with u BTW) but he's allowed to have his own opinion. Or can he not have an opinion because he made a bad movie? IMO "The Shining" and "Children..." were terrible and I agree 100% with King. "The Shining" especially is disappointing considering it was Kubrick who directed it. The guy obviously had no idea how to direct a horror film. He took the book, made ill-conceived changes (why exactly did he kill Halloran?) and managed to destroy a very scary book.

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I always thought the film had great atmosphere, especially with the opening music and some good scares in the first few scenes, particularly in the scene where joseph is murdered trying to escape.

I first saw the film when it was released on VHS and i was still quite young,and those opening scenes scared me quite a bit and stayed with me.

But after Burt & Vicky reach Gatlin the film does go down hill and i dont recall anything remotely scary from then on.

And yeah the hollywood ending sucked, and even with the remake we have still never seen "He Who Walk Behind The Rows" in the way he was described in Kings story.

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Kubrick's "The Shining" is a classic in world of psychological horror.. and notice I said Kubrick's, not King's... while the novel I thought was good, and lends more backstory to some of the more unexplained bizarre moments of the movie (like the old lady in the bathtub and the guy dressed as bear going down on a man).. i feel that Kubrick's film was a brilliant recreation, not adaptation.....

Kubrick stripped away a lot of the spooky ghost/haunted house nonsense, and really made it a visceral exercise of a man's subconscious resentment towards his son - a subconscious brought to the light and later personified when Jack ends up going crazy..

in my humble opinion at least..

a lot of films stray from their novel origins, but still remain very very good, ie: Jurassic Park..



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I'm glad u liked it but calling the book "nonsense" is going a little bit too far. Remember--without the book there never would have been a movie. The movie has never scared me and I've seen it multiple times trying to figure out why some people love it so much. Also, at every screening I've been to, people always laugh at Nicholoson's OTT performance. King didn't like it either.

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All he liked in the 80s was cocaine.

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I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with you on Kubrick's version of "The Shining". It is true that Kubrick changed quite a bit in regards to King's original story. But you have to remember that the language of books is very different from the language of films. Case in point, Stephen King (and I believe Mick Garris) did a mini-series version of "The Shining" for television in which they basically adapted almost the entire book word for word on screen and the result was horrific, and not in a good way. For starters, it was wayyyy too long and second, it didn't have nearly the same tension that Kubrick's version did. King's a great writer but he often fails to understand that not everything in print is going to translate well to film.

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A lot of people disagree with me but seriously--the movie never scared me. Not once. Most people seem to love it just because Kubrick did it. Kubrick was a great filmmaker but every filmmaker has their bad movies. IMO this was Kubrick's. Never saw the mini series but heard it was terrible.

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I've never seen The Shinning yet. And it's not because of some "high" principal of sorts but just something personal - and nothing towards the film, director, writer, writer(s), etc.

Anyways, my best friend then saw The Shinning with other friends from school - this was some years ago. And she told me that it did not scare her one bit but made her cry incessantly. She told me she felt total sadness for the character played by Jack. So, it just goes to show, not everyone will have the same reaction as the expected majority would.

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The Shining is the finest horror movie ever made, probably the best example ever of a film being better than the source material.

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King hated it and saying it's better than the book is ridiculous. Without the book there wouldn't have BEEN a movie.

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By that rationale, you can't ever say that any film is better than the source material, but in this case, it's clearly true, as it is with The Godfather and a handful of other films.

The film hits artistic heights that the book never strives for. They are considerably different works of art.

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oh I get it! We're not supposed to post unless we agree with you! I'm not your buddy.

suzycreamcheese RIP Heath Ledger 1979-2008

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oh I get it! We're not supposed to post unless we agree with you! I'm not your buddy.

suzycreamcheese RIP Heath Ledger 1979-2008

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oh I get it! We're not supposed to post unless we agree with you! I'm not your buddy.

suzycreamcheese RIP Heath Ledger 1979-2008

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oh brother "buddy" Get over it!

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I'm not sure of his exact opinion. I don't think he liked many of the films based on his work anyway. But producer Donald P. Borchers, who also directed the TV remake, mentioned that King politely said "these film-makers would go on to do good work" or something like that, which Donald took as a negative opinion about the film. In retrospect even Donald appears to dislike this original film. On the remake's DVD he talks about doing the story justice and regretting the happy Hollywood ending, despite the fact it was his idea in the first place.

I've seen the remake. I bought it years ago but had never gotten around to it. It's pretty good. I honestly think I like the first film better, but it's better than some of the sequels. I haven't seen them all, and the ones I have I haven't seen in years.

I read King's short story ages ago, but I never really cared that it wasn't adapted faithfully in the original film. Including Malachai's girlfriend this time was a interesting idea, but she didn't really have a whole lot to do, it's almost as if she was in it simply to have the exact same ending from the short story.


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But i think that's just it as far as King is concerned. It's the fact that really none of his books that were adapted during that time were close to his original writings. I think the only film adaptation that was close was Pet Semetary. I just looked up the plot for the written version of COTC and it's night and day difference with essentially the children (and the demon) winning.

But COTC got chopped up quite a bit, the couple was essentially supposed to be doomed out the gate as they are in a marriage on the rocks. There's the plot point about Malachai's girlfriend (taken out for obvious reasons due to the idea of an underage pregnancy). Then there's the whole part at the end where the demon demands that the age be lowered to 18 so all 19 year olds (including Malachai) had to commit ritual suicide.

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He was very involved in Pet Sematary and he directed Maximum Overdrive... is it just me or except the lame sequels of his films like Pet Sematary 2 or Children of the Corn 2,3,4,5, 666, etc, etc... that he did not like and approove and did not hate the movies of his books ? I remember him hating a lot Lawnmower Man but except theses, they are not that bad !!!

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I'm going to watch this.

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I remember him hating a lot Lawnmower Man

The thing about THE LAWNMOWER MAN is the movie was originally nothing like his short story, and it still isn't really. It was altered a tiny bit so the film-makers or the studio or somebody could use Stephen King's name as a marketing ploy. The film was originally supposed to be called BEYOND CYBERSPACE or something like that.


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You're absolutely right about "The Lawnmower Man". I saw the movie years ago, so I only remember bits and pieces and then I recently read the actual story and all I can say is WTF! It's one of the few King tales that I haven't been able to make heads or tails out of.

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From what I've heard, The Lawnmower Man took a Stephen King title and applied it to someone else's story, so SK had his name removed from the film because he wanted to tell the truth that he didn't write the freaking thing.

I had read COTC as a story years ago and it was a great atmospheric piece with neat psychology about fanaticism in children and a clever supernatural macguffin. I agree with someone earlier that the basic premise seems to be lifted from two episodes of the first Star Trek, a TV series to which SK's work makes frequent direct or indirect references, but it seems more like a Joseph Campbell archetype than a lazy plagiarism.

When I started to watch COTC as a movie last night, I expected it to suck, but it was a decent horrifying B-movie in its own right even if it wasn't like the book. I don't mind Hollywood happy endings either. I see the book and movie as two separate entities in their own right.

Some authors just don't write filmable movies. Alan Moore realised this after two films and put a blanket ban on any future adaptations. (Since he had already sold the rights, 2 or 3 movies went ahead after the ban as they were out of his hands.) Harry Turtledove writes great adventure epics but his books are so precise and metronomic that any adaptation would have to change it so much as to no longer be the same story--Turtledove is so unfilmable he doesn't even have an IMDB name entry. Lemony Snicket's "Unfortunate Events" series is a weak story buoyed up by brilliant prose narration which is impossible to translate to film, so the LS movie, while boasting great actors and designs, was doomed to a sucky script.

Some authors like JD Salinger, Ken Kesey, or the aforementioned Alan Moore, can't abide one jot or tittle of their work being changed in a film adaptation, so they decide "no more movies." Others, like Michael Crichton, Dan Brown and JK Rowling, just let it ride and don't mind that many elements have to be changed or cut when their work is put on film.

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The Lawnmower Man was not too bad for 1992. I remember it was hot in video stores, it was sold out for weeks when it comes out. So it probably make tons of cash on video, and not bad in theaters. Plus, Jeff Fahey is solid.. Austin O'Brien was a good kid... and Pierce Brosnan broke up in the US finally ! So all in all, not the best, but far from the worse !

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From what I've heard, The Lawnmower Man took a Stephen King title and applied it to someone else's story, so SK had his name removed from the film because he wanted to tell the truth that he didn't write the freaking thing.

I had read COTC as a story years ago and it was a great atmospheric piece with neat psychology about fanaticism in children and a clever supernatural macguffin. I agree with someone earlier that the basic premise seems to be lifted from two episodes of the first Star Trek, a TV series to which SK's work makes frequent direct or indirect references, but it seems more like a Joseph Campbell archetype than a lazy plagiarism.

When I started to watch COTC as a movie last night, I expected it to suck, but it was a decent horrifying B-movie in its own right even if it wasn't like the book. I don't mind Hollywood happy endings either. I see the book and movie as two separate entities in their own right.

Some authors just don't write filmable movies. Alan Moore realised this after two films and put a blanket ban on any future adaptations. (Since he had already sold the rights, 2 or 3 movies went ahead after the ban as they were out of his hands.) Harry Turtledove writes great adventure epics but his books are so precise and metronomic that any adaptation would have to change it so much as to no longer be the same story--Turtledove is so unfilmable he doesn't even have an IMDB name entry. Lemony Snicket's "Unfortunate Events" series is a weak story buoyed up by brilliant prose narration which is impossible to translate to film, so the LS movie, while boasting great actors and designs, was doomed to a sucky script.

Some authors like JD Salinger, Ken Kesey, or the aforementioned Alan Moore, can't abide one jot or tittle of their work being changed in a film adaptation, so they decide "no more movies." Others, like Michael Crichton, Dan Brown and JK Rowling, just let it ride and don't mind that many elements have to be changed or cut when their work is put on film.
You make some very valid points, and I agree with a lot of them, but there are also some areas of concern as well.

Where I agree is that not everything in a novel will translate well to the screen. Almost all novels, when they are adapted, have to change some things around. I'm a writer myself and I accept this.

But what I find harder to accept is when Hollywood sees fit to change certain themes and the whole plot of the story. A good example here is Bram Stoker's Dracula. This 1992 film by Francis Ford Coppola was a true masterpiece on some levels, and an equally true failure on others. The acting was good, the atmosphere, special effects and sets were magnificent and I really did enjoy the movie.

The weak point of BSD was the abysmal script. It changed the story from a basic battle between good and evil (the English vs. the Count) to that of a sappy love story between Mina and Dracula that is not even hinted at in the book.

Now, the Dracula story can be told on screen, remaining true to the basic story of the novel and yet still have it to work well. The BBC did this in their 1977 presentation Count Dracula. It made some changes in the novel but at the same time, it was true to Bram Stoker's classic work, and it is my favorite adaptation of the story. This in case you are interested, is from the BBC's Masterpiece Theater collection.

I thought that the adaptations of Tom Clancy's works that I have seen were good. The scripts for Hunt for Red October, Patriot Games, and Clear and Present Danger, were all well done, telling their respective stories well. I haven't heard of any negative feelings about these films from Clancy. But I do know that Clancy was not happy at all with the film, Sum of All Fears, feeling that they changed too much from the book. Since I have yet to see SOAF, I cannot comment directly on it but the changes that I have heard about do not sound to me like they were needed.

Another example of a good adaptation comes from the SK novel, The Stand. This is easily my favorite work by SK and he did the screenplay, keeping it reasonably close to the source novel. Although opinions will differ on this, with some thinking the result was nothing short of catastrophic, I thought the mini-series turned out very well and it is one of my all-time favorite films.

To sum up then, while re-working some scenes will often be needed to make the translation, complete revisions, such as Coppola with BSD are seldom necessary or advised.

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There WERE underage pregnancies. The girl who was leading the "communion" was heavily pregnant IIRC.
In COTC 5, somewhere along the line, the age of favor WAS lowered to 18.

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He didn't like it which I find odd because there are some good and genuinely creepy parts of this movie.

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Sadly he did not and he has said in a few interviews he wasn't happy with all the sequels they made to it and felt like they were milking them on the success of his name. I am a fan of Stephen King but I actually like a few of the Children of the Corn movies and some of the movies and TV shows he has been involved in based on his own books lately like Cell and Under the Dome have been really disappointing.

I think the best adaption of a Stephen King novel in the past decade was Haven.

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