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It was pretty much my fault


What was up with Francine telling her firend that the abuse was her fault? In my opinion, Francine did nothing wrong.

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Yes, Francine was finally right in that she admitted that it was her fault because she conceded that she showed extremely stupidity to have married such an abusive, wicked loser like Mickey when there were many other decent men out there that she could have chosen to marry. Just like how a bank robber had a choice before choosing to rob a bank, Francine had the choice to decline Mickey's marriage proposal and instead accept all her other suitors. Given the fact that she was fairly attractive when she was a young woman, I'm sure lots of men tried to pursue her in droves and she had a huge selection to choose from. She could have chosen wisely and married a nice, smart, decent man who a great future with a good education and career. But noooooo....she chose poorly and married a man without a bright education, career, and was an alcoholic. As a result, she got her deserts and comeuppance by choosing to marry lowlife loser in Mickey.

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But Francine kept acting like the abuse was her fault. Couldn't she see that it was Mickey's?

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When it comes to bad marriages, BOTH sides are at fault. I guess Francine wanted to atone for her bad, idiotic mistake of choosing to be Mickey's wife by marrying that wicked man in the first place. And by now atoning for her past mistakes, she is taking responsibility for her past actions and admitting that she was at fault instead of blaming others, including Mickey.

Of course, Mickey should admit that he was at fault too.

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It was never Francine's fault. She didn't do anything wrong.

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By marrying bad and irresponsible Mickey in the first place, that is a huge wrong decision by and of itself so that is why Francine is at fault as well.

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Francine didn't know Mickey was bad and irresponsible when she married him and nothing gives a guy the right to beat his wife.

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No, you are correct the abuse was all Mickey's fault.
But FRANCINE is to blame for allowing it to continue. I understand that times were different then. But Francine did know Mickey was controlling & physically abusive before they married (the film only barely touches on this, but the novel explains it fully).

Yet she had this bizarre attitude that since she had sex with him he 'owned' her.

Plus, I got the feeling she didn't even want to stand up for herself much.
She was very subservient and Mickey, like all human predators, saw this.

Francine was responsible in letting Mickey abuse her kids as well. She had more than one chance to leave him (and HAD left him) but kept going back until it was too late. That IS her fault.


I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

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Nothing was Francine's fault and there is no excuse for what Mickey did.

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You didn't even bother to read my post.

Mickey was responsible for all the abuse. Francine was responsible for her own SAFETY.
Everyone is.



I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.

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I read your post. All I'm saying is that I don't think Francine deserves any blame at all. No abuse victim does. I think she was just afraid of Mickey. The only person to blame is Mickey because husbands should not hit their wives.

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When it comes to bad marriages, BOTH sides are at fault.

bullsh*t..what a load of tripe

There is no one looking out for us. We are all alone. Graham Hess

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Are you serious? I really hope that you aren't. Please reply

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Francine blamed herself because battered women are told by their abusers so often that they're responsible for their own abuse -- they dress too sexily, they spend too much money, they're stupid, they can't cook, they can't keep house, they're lousy mothers -- that they come to believe it. You might as well ask why concentration-camp inmates don't rebel; the reason, of course, is that they're beaten down for so long that they become convinced that their oppressors are all-powerful and resistance is futile.

The commenters in this thread are looking at Francine's case through the filter of what we now know about domestic violence. Things were much different in the 1960s and 1970s when Francine and Mickey were married.

As a police officer testified during her trial, police didn't even arrest batterers unless they saw the attack. A repeat abuser like Mickey was too cunning to hit Francine in front of the cops. When she called the police, he'd simply sit down and wait for them. For any other crime, a badly beaten victim who said "He did it" would be probable cause for arrest, but not if the batterer and the victim were married to each other. Then domestic violence became a family matter, not a crime. Since they didn't arrest him, it wasn't unusual for Mickey to beat Francine again after the cops left.

Unlike many victims, Francine owned the house where she and her children lived. Her problem was that she HAD a place to go, but no one would help her force Mickey to move out. Most women who wanted to leave a batterer did NOT have a place to go, because domestic violence shelters didn't exist. Families wouldn't help, partly because like Francine's mother and mother-in-law, they lived in a milieu where domestic violence was normal, but also because relatives' homes were the first place where batterers looked for their victims. And if, like Francine, they dropped out of school to marry in their teens, they had no marketable skills and couldn't support a family.

It wasn't just female police officers who changed public opinion about domestic violence. It was also feminist scholars who pointed out that it's not a family problem, it's a societal problem.

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Francine shouldn't blame herself because she did nothing to make Mickey beat her.

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