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Olivia d'Abo was only Seventeen...


...when she was nude in this movie. I'm finding out that this is a more common occurrance than I thought. I've noticed that more than a couple of actresses were nude before their 18 birthdays. Not that it matters, I guess.

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Quite a few, actually, and d'Abo was sixteen at the time her scenes were filmed.

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16 is legal in Europe.
Thank you Europe!

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She was a smokin' 16 year old. Still absolutely stunning.

Different laws in Europe then and America now.

Was just watching The Girl Next Door and in the directors comments he kept mentioning how they had to use body doubles for the boy lead, who was 17, to get around child pornography laws. And in the scene where he gets a lap dance, they had like 4 pillows between him and the girl, lol.

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Bullshit. Age of consent in Massachusetts is 16. That’s why no Kennedy has gone to jail.

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It's as plain a travesty of consent issues as it would seem to be. The more this issue (use of nude minors in public entertainment) is looked into the worse it proves to be. No one should be surprised, of course. There is far more public interest in getting the clothes off pretty minors (people too young for political power) than there is in protecting them from the voyeurism of those in power. Emily Lloyd was 15 when she "had to" perform nude and be fondled nude by an adult, and the director (David Leland) made sure to grab the sexploitation market by making it clear in promotional interviews that he had to be "very harsh" with Lloyd to get her to do the scenes. So much for consent! But, again, no one should be surprised. When people are 100% dependent for everything, including emotional approval, their consent cannot be taken as free and informed, even in the best circumstances. When you see a nude minor in a movie, assume that the exhibition was forced, because in all but the very weirdest cases, it essentially was. The problem is worse in Europe, because adult "authority" is more absolute there.

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Calm down. The VAST majority of minors that perform nude scenes get their parents permission to do the scene. I'm sure in the entire history of cinema there have been some exceptions, but this issue is not as big of a problem as you make it out to be.

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What a maroon.

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Official government records, along with contemporary news, confirm that Olivia d'Abo was 14 when she appeared in Bolero. The film was finished and screened for critics before d'Abo's 15th birthday.

Timeline & Sources:
• 1969 Jan 22 - Olivia Jane d'Abo born according to official British records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_d%27Abo#cite_note-1)
• 1983 Summer - Bolero filmed in Spain (http://elpais.com/diario/1983/05/08/ultima/421192807_850215.html)
• 1984 Jan 1 - Roger Ebert reviews finished film (http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/bolero-1984)
• 1984 Jan 22 - Olivia Jane d'Abo turns 15
• 1984 Aug 31 - Bolero is released unrated by Cannon after splitting from MGM/UA, since MGM would not release the film unless it was edited down to an R rating.

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She sounds like every other older actress who shaves years off her life by claiming she was born four years earlier.
Demi Moore did the same thing. She claims she is four years younger than birth records have her at.
Older actresses are scared of ageing and not getting work.
d'abo was at least 16 when she filmed that awesome bathtub scene.

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Why are you unable to understand that official government birth records are not the same as claims by private individuals? It doesn't matter what D'abo says her DOB is, it's what's on the official records that counts, and they say she was born in 1969 and therefore was 14 when the scene was filmed in 1983, not 16 (IMDB states the movie was filmed from April 1983-August 1983, making her 14 1/2 at most when filming ended). Whether D'abo shaves years off her age is irrelevant - she claims 1971 as her DOB, you claim 1967 evidently, since that is the year she would have to have been born to be 16 in that scene. But both D'abo and you are incorrect (in her case, she is lying). Her DOB was registered in the General Registry of London when she was born, and they don't change it on request without proof, even for the person in question. I've actually seen it myself, there is no wiggle room here.

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Not uncommon, actually. Terri Nunn, of the New Wave band Berlin, posed nude for Penthouse when she was 16. She still has a rockin' bod at 40-something.


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Oh yes, I'm sure D'Abo was scarred for life when she had to stand up nude in a bathtub, and utter the classic lines to Bo Derek, "I am woman; juicy too!" I'm sure it took years of therapy to recover. Come on people, there is nothing wrong with this.

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Hahaha. I thought I was hearing things. I actually rewound and put the subtitles on to read if that's what she said


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she was 16, but did look like an 14. She looks perfect thou.

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If she was born in 1969, and the film was made in 1983, how does that add up to 16? Or is every birth record available online incorrect?

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The official records at the General Registry of London would have to be wrong, too.

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Olivia was not at the first nude apeareance. Same year she acted in Conan the Destroyer movie, where she also featured nude.

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She wasn't nude in Conan. What part are you referring too?? She wears skimpy outfits, but apart from that, there was no nudity.

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And in any case Bolero was shot first - the cast of Conan the Destroyer celebrated D'abo's 15th birthday on the set in January of 1984. Bolero had wrapped up filming months before.

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Official government records, along with contemporary news, confirm that Olivia d'Abo was 14 when she appeared in Bolero. The film was finished and screened for critics before d'Abo's 15th birthday.

Timeline & Sources:
• 1969 Jan 22 - Olivia Jane d'Abo born according to official British records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_d%27Abo#cite_note-1)
• 1983 Summer - Bolero filmed in Spain (http://elpais.com/diario/1983/05/08/ultima/421192807_850215.html)
• 1984 Jan 1 - Roger Ebert reviews finished film (http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/bolero-1984)
• 1984 Jan 22 - Olivia Jane d'Abo turns 15
• 1984 Aug 31 - Bolero is released unrated by Cannon after splitting from MGM/UA, since MGM would not release the film unless it was edited down to an R rating.

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Children need more say in these matters.Alot of the time it doesn't even seem as if the need for parental consent acts as any sort of protection for the child. Many showbiz parents will give consent to anything that they believe will get their child's career going.
I don't think many of you are grasping how fragile and sensitive teenaged girls truly are...either that or I'm just overly sensitive ! I remember my mother forced me to take dance lessons where I had to wear these really skimpy outfits ...I still look back on those days as being pretty schitty times.And if I said it didn't leave a lasting impact on my life in a negative way I'd be lying.

I just hope Olivia was treated right and doesn't feel the way i do about alot of things.


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so what? The age of consent is 16!!

duh!

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Since she was 14 your statement is irrelevant. It is also irrelevant because her scene didn't involve any sex, simulated or otherwise, so the age at which a minor may consent to sex doesn't apply.

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Olivia D'Abo was born in 1969 which made her 15 at the time and probably 14 when shooting it. See http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001882/ -- her bio on IMDb.

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She was fourteen years old when she stood up in a bathtub in Bolero. And it was legal.
Brooke Shields was only twelve when she stood up in a bathtub in Pretty Baby. And it was legal.
Kate Maberley was only ten when she stood up in a bathtub in The Secret Garden. And it was legal.




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And you can decrease the age year by year and at any age you'll find a girl somewhere in the world making a bathtub scene and all of them were legal. The older movies are, the more chance to find such a scene is, because decades ago nobody would notice such a scene, except maybe for finding it cute.

However, if you reach the age of 4 or 5 months, than such a scene would be very much illegal. Because kids at that age can't stand anywhere, including in a bathtub, so it would be a serious case of abuse.

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I suppose at some point it has to become a scene of the nude child swimming, instead of standing.

Chad Timmerman in The Blue Lagoon will do nicely as an example. OK, it was the ocean and not a bathtub, but those kids were using the ocean as their bathtub.



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We can only envy them for the size of their bathtube.

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Yeah, I have to admit to tub envy.



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She was 14 (or 14 1/2 at most) and not 15 when the scenes were shot. IMDB states that fliming ran from April of 1983 to August of 1983, and D'abo did not turn 15 until January of 1984.

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