Disturbing


after all these years it remains disturbing to me. a big WTF?

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Disturbing because it's an old (41) man having sex with his daughter's friend, and his best friend's daughter, on top of that. It's the sort of thing that in real life, when presented with a temptation like this, you have to turn yourself off and not let into your head, let alone actually do. After seeing this again after many years, I see it as an old man's fantasy. It's the young girl who keeps chasing the old man. Right. He is trying to stave her off. Sure. She's the one that's after him. Mmm hmmm. It's what every rapist says to his victim "C'mon, you know you want it". This is his version of what happened. I'd like to see her version of what happened. Probably very different.

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...and today, Demi Moore is married to a guy... how much younger than her? And they all hang out with her ex husband?

Now <that's> disturbing. "Rio" is only a movie.

And almost equally disturbing is your overanalyzed interpretation of this as his story, and you want to hear her story because he was obviously some old fart fantasizing, and what young girl wants a guy her father's age. God knows, we've never heard of that before, especially with the guy has a lot of money.

It's a movie. If they wanted you to think that hard, they'd have told you to.

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Wow. Your second point is alarming. Not the fact that you prefer not to analyze your movies, which is your choice, but that you need to repress others' attempts to do so, which is pathological. If you were old enough to watch this picture then you should be old enough to understand that there are more ways of looking at things than your own.

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I am 21 years old and let me tell you it is not uncommon for a young girl to lust after an older man. When I was sixteen I had an enormous crush on my friends dad, and while I never acted on it or told my friend, he was one of my biggest fantasies. You must be one of those men who think only teenage boys dream about being with older women. Well honey, it ain't so. I can't tell you how many girls in my highschool use to drool over our principal. Some words of advice, wake up and get your head out of the sand.

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"I am 21 years old and let me tell you it is not uncommon for a young girl to lust after an older man."

And old man who looks like Michael Caine? *wretch*

Sorry, it's not very plausible.

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You're a very shallow person if you think that looks are the only issue.

First, anyone with class would be intrigued by his distinguished looks and his obvious breeding and intelligence. You've shown that you don't recognize those things.

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I am 22 years old and I find Michael Caine very attractive in this movie.

Things just got interestinger.

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I agree that Michael Caine is very attractive in this movie and even more attractive in other movies...

And to make a point....I believe they actually tried to make him less attractive with the big dorky glasses and his stiff curly hair kept close to his scalp. I think they did this because it added to the comedy of the movie which was great by the way...the comedy and the movie itself.

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To be perfectly honest, when I was a teenager, any chick that more than about three or four years older than us wasn't of much interest for the most part, fantasy wise. Of course, if she was showing interest, it would be a different story, but fantasy? No, a 40 year old woman wasn't in my dreams when I was 17.

...however, it seems that any stories of young women and older guys seems to have entirely escaped fillum, unless he simply considers that any time an older guy and a younger chick hook up, it's because he raped her. Perhaps that's *his* fantasy.

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Don't presume that you were the norm for teenage boys. You'd be wrong.

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Hmmm, so the recurring theme that an old man's fantasy is to be the unprincipled patsy that cannot resist the seduction of a teenager is the plot here?

Hollywood, TV shows, and commercials have had that stereotype for quite some time where all men are inept horndogs that either do not think at all, or only briefly with the little head. Jennifer Garner in ALIAS looked barely legal, and was able to get the 'bad guys' at least distracted by her attire and actions. I hardly think it is a coincidence the series finished when she started a family in real life, and no longer looked the way she began in the show.

If you buy into that whole mess, you might as well not watch anything for entertainment, just go straight to the truly disturbing stuff and watch the Springer Show. Even the Montel Williams show has the 'paternity test' theme now and again, and one girl had been back eight times with the guy she was sure was the father of her baby, (still had not found the right one in eight tries!!) Just who is chasing who?
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Maybe it is an age/generation thing as to what is disturbing.

More and more, the young women are far from being helpless frail flowers. The local TV news was interviewing a family that had a Peeping Tom looking in their 16 year old daughter's window. The police caught the "suspect" at a hospital being treated for facial cuts! The girl saw the guy, and instead of cringing in terror and panic at a guy looking in her window, she smashed the window into his face!

Even I was told by an older co-worker that an 18 year old co-worker was interested in older men. This young woman had about seven weeks before she reported to Army Boot Camp. I cannot believe it was a co-incidence that within 30 minutes she came over to my work area and leaned or bent over in her low cut top, every time, in my direction. She was also standing about as close as possible to me, and she frequently bumped me with her arms. I didn't pursue it, but the signs were pretty clear that she wanted a date for the weekend.

I find the presumption that a girl would/cound not be interested in an older man or try to seduce and older man disturbing.

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Jennifer Garner in ALIAS looked barely legal, and was able to get the 'bad guys' at least distracted by her attire and actions. I hardly think it is a coincidence the series finished when she started a family in real life, and no longer looked the way she began in the show.


Jennifer Garner wasn't that young when ALIAS started, and at no point during the run of the show did she look barely legal.

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If you had actually seen the movie you'd have learned her version of what happened, since the movie is intercut with flashbacks of the characters expressing their thoughts to an interviewer/camera.

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greatly put Fillumfan!
btw this motif is in almost in every donen movie, sick.

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I'd do her immediately. Sometimes life gives you an opportunity you just must take. A fresh out of high school girl presenting herself to you like that is one of them.

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"Disturbing because it's an old (41) man having sex with his daughter's friend"

Kind of worse than that, as Caine was 51, not 41 in 1984. That makes him THREE times her age. Plus, all the scenes when he talks about being at her christening, or at the hospital when she was born... yuk yuk yuk.

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So, when is the next great Ealing Studio Comedy coming out?




Well, let's say, for the sake of argument, cocky-doody.

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Hahahahahha....good one!!

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Yeah there's something real dirtubing about a girl standing around topless in front of her father

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this movie kicks ass, ive seen it 30 times at least, lol
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You really can't make such broad generalizations about who any one person might be attracted to.Most of the high profile recent cases of female teachers getting involved with underage male students underscores this.Many are attractive married women with families,yet some loose screw(uh...no pun intended) induces them to view these children as romantic partners.
I suspect also,that the vast majority of young girls who fantasize about older men tend to envision the "bring me flowers and hold my hand" type of romantic fantasy,rather than the more physical fantasys that boys are prone to.Notice I said"vast majority"so as not to be guilty of making another broad generalization.

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I give Blame it On Rio ten stars out of ten. The movie is a re-make of the 1977 French film ONE WILD MOMENT. Both movies are great !!

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Yeah there's something real dirtubing about a girl standing around topless in front of her father


I think this movie is very funny , but I have to say that part has always grossed me out, too. Not only standing there topless, but also grabbing his arm and pulling him into the ocean to frolic around. Eww! Other than that, it was a great flick!

I'm smitten. I'm in deep smit.

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Disturbing, only from an American point of view. I spent many quality nights with many twenty-ish year old girls, and I'm 53. Of course, that was in Thailand.

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Wow, great example. "Quality nights" spent with many twenty-ish year old "girls" in Thailand.

Thailand is the playground for socially challenged and middle-age men to frolic with under age and trans-gender/she-male prostitutes who turn to such lives due to poverty.

Disturbing? Your comment is.

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BLAME IT ON RIO, while we all know there have been cases like the plot in real life, unfortunately comes across as an icky misogynistic fantasy which, more offensively, isn't even a good enough movie to justify it eyebrow raising concept.

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If anything, this film totally tells an accurate acount of how certain nymphs can be easily swayed into thinking they're in "love". Drew Peterson, anyone? The guy has two dead wives (one he met when she was 19) and another in tow at 23 despite his track record!! Or these geeks who write letters to serial killers on death row. Some girls just lack common sense or dig on the father figure angle. IT HAPPENS!! Others are gold-diggers, while some are unstable morons. The girl in this film was your typical 17-18 year old girl who mistook a childhood crush (she mentions fantasizing about him when she was a little girl) and thinking it's truuuuuue love. Then note how quickly she gets over Caine and is galavanting off with another guy at the end of the film.

Sure, the writers were in fantasy mode (Gelbart and Peters were in their mid-40s and 50s themselves) and wrote from a beyond-middle-aged guy getting a divorce point of view. They even tried to make Caine somewhat reluctant to the whole situation, but finally reach a point of "a busty, horny 17-year-old is thrusting herself at me...oh well" mindset. When in real life they probably wouldn't have thought twice and used the girl for all she was worth.

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Why shouldn't stories be told from the perspective of misogynists? Knuckleheaded as they are, they still have a point of view!






Born when she kissed me, died when she left me, lived whilst she loved me

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i would agree that i found this movie a bit disturbing. very perverse. in someways, soft porn. the creepy thing is, i couldn't get myself to turn it off! the cinematography was beautiful. it made me want to go to rio. I will also say, that personally, i've had a crush on michael caine ever since i saw him in the muppet christmas carol when i was a little kid. don't ask me why! and he was 59! something about him. yikes! lol. i could accept the whole younger woman older man thing....but what grossed me out was when the dads looked at their daughters topless. there was something very incestuous about it that made me want to puke. i tried to shake it off, but it continued to disturb me. and i mean, it was really creepy how the daughter demi moore knew about it and was sleeping in the house while it happened! and the girl goes back to bed and asks her "do you hate me", (or "are you mad at me?" (can't remember exactly how she said it) and demi is just like "oh no it's alright." WHATT???? ur married dad is sleeping with your best friend in the room next door and you don't care?????? that is not believable. and if it was believable i'd be concerned for mankind. and the dad finds out and is just like "whatever." ummm how is that possible if he said a couple minutes before that he would kill the guy who slept with his daughter. ??

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what's disturbing is when Demi's character says me too when the other girl says "i used to have a crush on your dad" that's disturbing

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This is on the TV at the moment - I think this is a really fun film. Didn't Demi Moore's character mean she had a crush on the father of the other girl - she wasnt saying "me too" about her own father.
Michael Caine has been utterly gorgeous for years. I've fancied him from Alfie onwards. Shows how old I am now!

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No I think a 'crush' in this context is fine. Demi's character was talking about her own father, played by Caine. It is like the saying, 'A girl's first love is her daddy'.

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This is a film - nothing is taboo, I believe, in film-making. Having said that this is a very innocent comedy romp. Maybe your disgust is more within your own mind. These things happen and is fair game to the scriptwriter etc. What must you think of Lolita! Anyway each to is own and personally I really like the film.

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I think the point being missed by the naysayers (like the one above) is that BIOR treats a very problematic subject (a middle-aged man having sex with his best friend's under-aged daughter -- and his own daughter's best friend) as broad humor. That's what was disturbing about it in 1984, and was still disturbing when I watched it again the other night on cable. Lolita, for those who like to cite it without understanding it, was a drama in which the older man's life was ruined by his obsession with a teenage girl. A woman in her early 20's hooking up with an old guy -- fine. But 17? Such a relationship is fitting material for dramatizing on screen, but not as slapstick.

There are so many creepy moments in BIOR, many mentioned above (such as when the fathers leer at their topless daughters at the beach). One not cited was the scene where Balogna's daughter crawls into bed with him in the morning and snuggles with him. I mean, c'mon. I raised three girls, and once they were in their teens, that sort of behavior was not on the board.

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1984 wasn't as politically correct as we are now. It's not all that different to other films made in a ten year span from it's release ("10", "Woman in Red"... ) It's saucy seaside postcard humour that was very "Carry on... " in style, just with more bare flesh, and very few people complain about that series. It's really not like it was the first film to be bawdy about sex. We don't get a lot of movies like it these days, that's true, but there were quite a lot of them back then.

The fathers weren't actually leering; the audience might well have been, but don't impose a possible viewer reaction on the characters... They are two separate things.

Some father and daughter relationships are tactile, and it's really only a problem if you already have inappropriate thoughts in your head.







Born when she kissed me, died when she left me, lived whilst she loved me

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You are correct. It was an odd film with a very odd POV. I saw it when it came out and have seen bits and pieces over the years on TV. Awkward film.

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Disturbing or not, the subject of the film has been known to occur.






Born when she kissed me, died when she left me, lived whilst she loved me

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The film is disturbing not due to the premise (which could be deemed digestable had it been done in a different way), but subtle other points which are added in along the way. For example she calls him 'Uncle Matthew' which has overtones of the creepy, he then makes references to his kissing her bottom when she was a baby and various things like that. I think had Matthew not seen Jennifer for many years and then she appeared and he didn't know who she was - it may have been a different scenario. However (for me) the film relies too much on the 'Uncle' aspect and references to their previous platonic relationship to feel comfortable. There is a clear difference to when a couple are attracted to each other (regardless of age) and see each other for who they are now, to an attraction which was born from a childs crush on her 'Uncle' and then this man making references to her as that child. It's icky and unsavoury.

What helps the film is the fact Michael Caine is playing the lead. Caine doesn't have anything sinister about him which ultimately helps make the film somewhat more acceptable. However - with that exact same script, had an actor like George Segal or even someone such as Gene Wilder or Alan Alda played the part it wouldn't have got this liberty at all. The irony is, Michael Caine is so miscast in the role that it distracts from the overall script and much of the dialogue they are saying.

Also, Michael Caine is famous for choosing films due to the locations (as he likes spending several months in warm weather), this would have been the only reason he took this job (as he did Jaws 4). I can promise you a lot of other actors were offered this part before him, simply because Caine would have been the last person you would have thought for that role. I'm guessing all those other actors turned it down due to the content!

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