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One thing I didn't understand about the SUN


If a star (sun) formed in place of Jupiter, would it not also destroy all of its moons, Europa included; or at least render them too sizzling hot to sustain life?


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The new sun that formed was an LED sun, not nuclear. Much cooler and Earth friendly..

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Works for me. Thanks!


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You know, it's CRAZY the delicate balance that the solar system is in according to stuff I watch on Discovery, Smithsonian, etc. They say life on Earth as we know it couldn't exist even if the moon didn't exist. Even a planet in a different spot would change everything. I once heard a physicist say that are an almost infinite number of variables that all have to be in place for the universe to even exist.

Way beyond me..

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We owe the moon more than we could even fathom. It’s mass and gravity in our orbit have taken so many hits from space objects which would have hit us otherwise.
It takes bullets for us time and again. Thank god for the moon.

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From what I've gathered, it's much more than that. Supposedly, without the moon in orbit, the entire weather pattern of the earth would be radically different without tides. I know that's all theoretical but they made some compelling and convincing arguments.

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Stars can have all kinds of surface temperatures. Granted, to get one that is as bright as Jupiter is in the closing earth shots would likely be pretty hot.

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Our solar system would have been turned into a binary star system. It would have rearranged all the planets, moons and asteroids. Normally this would create total havoc and destroy everything. But we must assume the intelligent design behind the operation worked all the celestial mechanics out. But it's very unlikely Europa maintained its close proximity to the new sun.

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No, the mass of Jupiter and thus its gravitational effect on other bodies in the solar system, would not change if it were it were to somehow ignite into a star.

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I am in no way an expert or even a layman on the subject of gravity, space etc. But I have wondered about this part of the movie.

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I don't think it's physically possible to turn a planet into the sun. You need hydrogen to act as a fuel because it's the most basic of elements and easiest to fuse together to give off the light and heat needed. Once you have the heavier planet-building elements around, you can't fuse them together, not even the sun can do that. If you squashed Jupiter down in size so it was the same density as the sun I can only assume it would collapse under its own gravity into a black hole.

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Most of Jupiter is Hydrogen and Helium, and the pressures are so intense near the surface, that the Hydrogen is in the form of a liquid, making it the largest liquid ocean in the solar system. So the ingredients are there I think for thermonuclear fusion, but clearly not the density/pressure. You need a *lot* more for Hydrogen to fuse. That's where the Monoliths came in, they did "something" to drastically increase the mass/density to initiate a chain reaction

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