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I saw a few tapings of Brothers in Hollywood


I was recently watching old VHS tapes from the mid-80's made from Showtime broadcasts for Seasons 1 and 2 and the beginning of Season 3. If anyone remembers this show, it seems that the most of the gay themed episodes were done in the first two seasons. Sometime around Season 3, they started doing mostly straight-themed episodes. The emphasis on the straight characters continued through Season 5. I heard at the time that they were concerned that gay-themed episodes would be bad for syndication. I don't know if this is true, but the show was syndicated on local televisions stations toward the middle or end of its run on Showtime. I saw an edited version of the Pilot that was shown on Channel 5 in Los Angeles. The syndicated shows had about 3 minutes removed for length and content.

For the tapings in Hollywood, they wanted gay male audiences who would laugh at most of the gay jokes. I seem to recall that on at least one occasion, they sent a Yellow bus to our Gay Student Union in Fullerton to pick us up to attend a taping. I remember seeing the following episodes taped at Paramount Studios:
--Penny wears extremely large falsies and pretends that she had implants.
--A two-parter involving an old lady who did NOT want to stay in a rest home.
--Lou discovers that he may have had a daughter in Korea, when a young woman from Korea shows up and says he is her father.

Overall, I do recall that the cast was very professional. They did not goof off and waste time. For the two-parter, however, the cast was pushed to their limits. They taped both parts in one day. This meant that the cast had to tape this hour-long show in the early afternoon and again in the evening. I was at the evening taping. They had a lot of technical problems and starts and stops. It took forever to tape the show, and they kept throwing candy bars to the audience to keep us from leaving. We were on uncomfortable wooden bleachers. The actors were getting a little testy from the long taping. I remember Phillip Charles Mekenzie (Donald) getting upset about something in the middle of the taping and walking off the set for a few minutes. I would not call it a major tantrum. He just seemed a little upset and had to cool down for some reason.

Looking back on this show, it is dated, but is a great time capsule of how gay men behaved in the mid-1980's. It was the only major show I recall that had gay characters that were real people. Say what you may about Donald, but there were many queeny gay men who acted like that during that time. Donald was not a caricature. He was a real person, and probably the most intelligent and well adjusted character on the show. The show about Joe's Football buddy revealing that he had AIDS was very well done. The ending was a real tear jerker. And you have to remember that many people who became HIV positive in the mid-80's did not survive. The jokes on this series were always very funny, but they really ran that dumb brother Lou routine into the ground.

The show was rated by ShowTime for mature audiences, but only because there were gay characters. The most controversial moment that I saw was when Cliff's rich boyfriend gave him a quick peck on the lips. That was a BIG deal in 1985! Compared to Queer as Folk, this show would be considered very tame. They could show it on the Disney Channel.

The episodes were about 25 minutes. During the second season, they replayed the first season episodes with introductions from the cast.

I can't imagine a big demand for this show. It's been off the air since the 1980's, and very few people know about it. I have recently watched a few first season episodes on VHS. In all of these early shows there are several jokes that only gay men over 40 would understand. Younger gay audiences might not understand what is going on and would not get most of the jokes. Straight people may miss a lot of the gay humor. But it would be great if LOGO could show it.

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edwardbrianm, thanks for posting. I happened to catch a few episodes of this show back in 1990-91 on KTLA Channel 5 in L.A., and found it to be pretty cutting edge even in re-runs at the time. Being straight, I think that some of the humor went over my head, but nevertheles, I found it to be quite entertaining. Yes, it's a different world now, but I'm sure that a whole new generation of viewers would be fascinated by this program.

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I'm straight, and I'm pretty sure I got all the jokes. Isn't assuming that it went over the heads of straights, or young, contemporary gays making the same kind of presumptive conclusions that the mainstream is often accused of making about the gay community? I think it depends on the individual. In general terms, though, I guess the OP is likely correct. Perhaps it might be best to preface such statements with something like "In many cases, ...".

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you were so lucky to see brothers in person. i loved that show since it first aired in '84. i watched it every week and i also taped it, im missing 10 episodes. i wish it was on dvd. there was a rumor a few years ago that it was going to be relesed on dvd in 2007 but that never happend.
to me even though i loved the show it went a little down hill in the last season. even though sam was very pretty they spent too much time on her and joe having a baby, i guess they needed a new story line.
donald was my favorite. i remember the show going into syndication in '89 but it was never shown in my area (nj) even though we get ny stations, i thought for sure ny tv would carry it since ny has a big gay community.
i caught a few shows while on vacation in ca.
i felt really bad when i found out paul regina had died from liver cancer at 49.
i think it was in 2006. this show was really ahead of its time, a thousand times better than will and grace. i couldnt even sit through one complete episode. when i saw that one gay playing the over the top gay guy i would just think of donald.i wrote to logo a few times asking about putting brothers on but they never got back to me. i even wrote to here! a pay gay channel that i get on cable. they can show nudity but soft core shows and movies. no luck there either.

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I'm just today reading this string... Whether you were successful or not, I've got to thank you sincerely for making the efforts you did. I know something about trying to be a voice - a lone voice - to support an overlooked work of creativity one would think would have more support and be better known, and I know how frustrating it is that no one seems to be listening. If/when this series makes it to DVD, I'll be thanking my memory of the person who posted to imdb for helping to make it happen. Thanks again.

(BTW, just one of the works I've tried to bring attention to worth mentioning for sharing the Gay-and-accessible-but-ignored theme is the Pansy Division album "Total Entertainment" -- Worth picking up!)

PS I'm in NJ too, and I thought it was weird for the same reason that we never saw Brothers once it was syndicated.

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I was in the Gay Men's Chorus of Los Angeles back then, and several times groups of us went to tapings of this show. Once we were privileged to see Robert Stack live, when he appeared as Donald's father. The show was a landmark in the development of gay awareness in the media. I'm glad I was there.


"The value of an idea has nothing to do with the honesty of the man expressing it."--Oscar Wilde

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Hi, That was a GREAT show. I am lucky enough to have most of the series on dvd. Took me a long time to get it. I am missing some episodes, but have most. The character Donald was the GREATEST!!!! They don't write male characters like that anymore
Michael

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