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spheeris' commentary


somewhere along the line in Penelope Spheeris' commentary track she says something along the lines of "Jack never makes mention that his step-dad is black." Did she not remember writing the line whe he drops the N-bomb?

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As a screenwriter, I can definitely say that it's easy to forget little details, especially when they are added and removed over the course of a films construction.

You must also understand, she probably doesn't watch her own films very often. Once you finish a project, you are sick of it and have an aversion to it for some time.

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Or that she may be trying to be politically correct.

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I remember the Jack character telling Evan that his stepdad is "Black".

Evan's reply was ... "A black cop, what a drag"

But only a minute later, Jack mentions that his stepdad came out to the TR house, they laughed him out the door, etc...

then said.... "Parents are so Lame"

So, even though there seemed to be a negative comment from the character that his stepdad is African American, the script still managed to have Jack's character respect his stepdad enough to refer to him as a "Parent"... even if a "lame parent" ....which, as a phrase, likely has more to do with teenagers being teenagers, not with them as racist

I was a fan of Punk at that time, went to shows, skateboarded, watched Suburbia like 100 times, wore Minor Threat t shirts and ripped jeans, and listned to cassette tapes of TSOL, Minor Threat, Social D, and others on an original Sony Walkman.....this is back in 1984-1985 time frame. I am not any more a part of that scene, as I am a Christian and an adult. But I do remember that movie pretty well.

Anyways, As far as the punk scene went at that time, I lived in San Jose, CA, and I can attest that the kids at that time who liked punk and skated were, YES, mostly white.

But MANY, including good freinds of mine, were Latino, and a few were of other races as well...The 80's was a time of diversity in a lot of ways, moreso than this movie Suburbia showed. My high school "punk/skater" hang out zone had whites, Latins, and other races....these kids set themselves apart by their music, fashion, politics, and anti-conformity ideals, .....it wasnt about race. Punk was not the most positive, encouraging, uplifting thing for teens to be into (then or now)...but I don't think most punk kids were racially biased.

But, just for the record,..... While I don't own the film, I remember it pretty well, and I don't remember any character in the film Suburbia actually using the N- word.

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hey did anyone not notice kathy bates played in this as one of the punks mother

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i just watched the movie and jack says black, and anyway, he says it to show he considered the guy a sellout, that's why he says that

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