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Lonnegan found out he had been conned!!??


The Sting II was awful any way you look at it. Mac Davis should stick only to singing--watching him try to act was tortuous! Teri Garr was an annoyance from start to finish. The entire plot lacked everything on which the original thrived. Clearly David Ward had exhausted all his writing talent by the time he went to work on this script--and any future script to date.

But what ruined it the most for me was the fact that Doyle Lonnegan, played to the hilt by Robert Shaw in the original, supposedly got privy to the fact that he had been conned by Gondorff and Hooker and wanted revenge--by playing a con on them (??). It was well established in the original that one of the main goals of the con was to make sure that the mark (Lonnegan) NEVER find out that he had been conned. An elaborate plan was executed to make sure this was possible. And furthermore, the Lonnegan character in the original would have handed the two con men their heads had he found out about the con. He obviously knew where to find them, since he plotted to con them in the sequel, but it makes no sense whatsoever that he wouldn't simply kill them. Robert Shaw was probably rolling over in his grave during every screening of this disastrous film.


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You can't treat this movie like a sequel.

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I do not agree with the scathing review rendered by jwalsh, but of course he/she/it is entitled to their opinion. Probably the film could have had a different name than the Sting II since it apparently offended so many purists of the first one. I have seen both and frankly I like them both for different reasons. As for Lonnegan finding out he had been conned, it was my impression that he was out after blood but was attempting to use the character played by Karl Malden. In any event, for the devotees of The Sting, get over it, because there have been a lot worse "sequels" to other films than this one! A LOT WORSE.

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While I do agree that this was no where near as good as the original, I can understand a mark wanting to get revenge for being conned by conning the con-men. Matter of pride that he is smarter than them.

How Lonigan figured out he'd been conned could be as simple that one of the "extras" got drunk and bragged about it to the wrong person.

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It was made clear in the original that Lonnegan killed people for this sort of thing. He killed Luther over $11,000. He had to on the chance that any potential competitor found out he could be taken, because they'd take it as a sign of weakness and move in on his operations. He pointed out he'd have to kill a friend he'd known since he was six.

The Robert Shaw Lonnegan would not have conned them, nor would he had admitted he'd been conned to Karl Malden's character

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