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Goldfinger

posted 11 years ago by KinksRock
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I'm sorry if this has already come up, but, after watching this film for the first time in many years, I was struck by how similar it was to GOLDFINGER.

Granted, all Bond films are derivative and repetitive of each other, but there are particular similarities between these two:

- A villain who cheats at a game, with Bond humiliating him.

- Precious items (gold, Faberge eggs).

- A strong female henchman supported by beautiful women, with the female leader ultimately coming over to Bond's side despite some hints of woman-on-woman love.

- The female henchman has a really, really over-the-top sexually explicit name (Pussy Galore, Octopussy).

- An Asian (Korean, Indian) henchman with superhuman strenghth.

- The plot to destroy a U.S. government location with a nuclear device (Fort Knox, NATO base). (One difference: In GOLDFINGER, Bond had no idea how to defuse the bomb; in OCTOPUSSY, he did it quite nicely.)

- Climactic scene on an airplane with a bad guy being sucked into the air (in the book GOLDFINGER, it was actually Oddjob who was sucked through the window, not Goldfinger; the bad guy in OCTOPUSSY really had some balls to climb outside on the airplane to get Bond).

- Scenes with Bond sneaking up on the bad guys disguised as an animal (bird in the GOLDWATER opening, crocodile in OCTOPUSSY).

This is not to say that OCTOPUSSY is a bad film. It is actually quite enjoyable. I still think THE SPY WHO LOVED ME is the best of the Bond films and (I know this is a controversial statement) it may even be the best of *all* the Bond films. That's for another forum.

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[–] LuboLarsson 11 years ago

A View to a Kill shares a lot with Goldfinger too.

[–] A-zone 11 years ago

May I just also add:

- The Asian (Korean, Indian) henchman crushes something (Golf Ball, Dice) with his bare hands.

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[–] PeterBlues (790) 3 years ago

also just as in roger moore's first bond flick he has encounters with crocodiles, yes, and a pattern in bond movies is a villain crumbling something in the hand, here it's the dices, dr no does it to a statue, oddjob in "goldfinger" to a golf ball, hehe, another villain is recognisable from "beverly hills cop", made around the same time, also the general at the circus must be the american guest from "fawlty towers", you sort of recognise his voice, and this marks twenty years since the gogol actors first appearance in "from russia with love", vijay comes pretty far down the credits for having such a big part. someone commented that the 1980s bond flicks looks like tv-movies, i wouldn't go that far, but i admit the camera work looks a bit off sometimes in this, like there is one really bad shot at the train sequence. the fight on the train, the woman in the back seat, a lot of that gave the same vibe as the ending of in "a view to a kill" but with a different setting. to think connery was playing bond at the same time in "never say never again", i wonder if that's the reason they went all the way in with bond trademarks in this like the strange bit when bond recognises his own tune in the scene "charming tune" as i guess the connery movie didn't have the right to use it.

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[–] R_Kane (15828) 2 years ago

No Bond movie with Moore is a good Bond movie.

[–] millsey72 (9527) 2 years ago

Thats nonsense. Goldfinger is a action heist film where this movie is set against the backdrop of the cold war. And the jewelry stolen here in the movie is not gold by the way