Animal Abuse = Hilarious?


Look, I like this movie and all, but the part where the dog gets killed is too much. The dog wasn't the sweetest, but it didn't deserve to die like that. And I hate how they make it seem like the cop is a wimp because he gets emotional over it. They treated it with too much humor (like they did with the cat in CV). I don't get it - animals getting killed doesn't make me bust out laughing. Not even a chuckle. In fact, it kind of ruins the rest of their road trip for me. Clark is such an a$$hole!

At the very least, they should have given us a clue that the dog got out of the leash and survived. Or they should never had it as part of the story.

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Yeah, thought so myself. I kept waiting for the dog to show up safe and sound. Aunt Edna's death was also unfortunate. These things don't belong to such a comedy.

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I'm an animal lover, and I find this scene hilarious. Obviously no sane person thinks animal abuse is funny, but I submit that it IS possible to laugh about the dog's fate without being a terrible person.

I would also argue that, under normal circumstances, the Griswalds would not be so cavalier about a dog's death. But the point of the movie is - they are trying to reach Wally World, come hell or high water. And we, as audience members, are meant to root for them. Being saddled with Aunt Edna and her savage dog was simply one impediment to overcome. They stopped to visit Eddie and his family as a nice gesture, since they were passing through. They didn't expect to have to end up driving Aunt Edna to Phoenix. Nor did they expect to have to accomodate her dog - who was a teeth-baring monster. Would YOU want to be cooped up in an already-crowded car with that dog?

Clark accidentally leaving Dinkums tied to the bumper was a convenient - and surprising - solution to a mild inconvenience. Yes, it's a grisly death. Yes, the dog probably suffered. But he was an obstacle to the main goal: Wally World. Dinkums's death also foreshadowed Auth Edna's untimely end. Now, here I'm willing to admit that the Griswalds could have handled Aunt Edna's death better. In most cases, a family member's death en route would have meant a canellation of the trip. But not here. The desire to get to Wally World was just too strong.

So we, as audience members, aren't meant to be too cut up over the dog's demise. Partly because he was a monster, partly because we was an impediment. I also don't agree that the cop was portrayed as a wimp, simply because he got emotional over the dog's death (He did, after all, have "a pooch just like this" when he was a kid). He was, in fact, ready to split Clark's skull with the butt of his revolver. The humor here is that Clark was able to convince this cop, who is clearly a dog lover but who doesn't actually know the penalty for animal cruelty, that it was an accident, which it was.

Gary Larson once defended one his Far Side cartoons - one that featured a small dog about to be tortured - by stating that the key element to humor is conflict, that our brain is asked accept the unacceptable. In this case, a dog meeting a grisly death tied to the back of a moving vehicle.

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We all understand about conflict, you don't need to explain simple tropes to us. It should be pretty obvious that conflict doesn't necessitate animal cruelty. I don't understand what's funny about it. Like I actually haven't a clue where the humor comes from. I know that it's there because these animal cruelty jokes pop up all the time and people who as far as I can tell are perfectly decent laugh at them. I haven't a clue what's going on. Why is that funny?

I saw this movie when I was about 8 and never watched it again, now pretty much the only thing I remember about it is that the dog was dragged to death behind the car. Where does the humor in that stem from? It's really awful. And it's not a quick gag, so we can find humor in the mean spirited absurdity, it's a long drawn out scene in which we are invited to dwell on it.

And the fact that no one gives a sh!t? When my cat was put to sleep as a kid, I was allowed to stay home from school for a couple of days while I mooned about the house occasionally crying like a little girl and sleeping for three thirds of the day because that's the normal reaction to the loss of a childhood pet, and anyone who thinks Wally World is more important looses my sympathy and the movie becomes a loss. I mean, we do have to actually engage with these characters even in a crazy comedy like Vacation, so it's hard to give much of crap about any of their conflict in the face of something that it seems obvious to me in real life is indisputably more important than the principle goal as set out in the script.

A similar sort of idea is in the movie Little Miss Sunshine. The goal is to get to the pageant and along the way we encounter many obstacles. The grandfather dies before they get there. His death though isn't horrifying. It isn't casually tossed aside as if it doesn't matter, we aren't invited to guffaw at some terrible tortuous end. He ODs. It's funny and sad, but it's not nasty, we can relate to the character's reactions and actions and carry on with the movie. That isn't true of Vacation. I just really don't get it.

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Well said shrugs!! :-)

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Valentino, as a huge animal lover (who treats my 4 dogs and 2 cats like my children), I completely agree. The entire premise of this movie is the Griswald family getting to Wally World, regardless of what happens. There were so many inconvienences along the way.

Would I ever laugh at this scene if it happened in real life? No way. Would I ever laugh at someone's aunt dying in their vehicle, then getting tied to the top of the car? No way. Heck, would I laugh at a teenage girl implying that she has french kissed her own dad in real life? Again, no way.

This is a movie, one which is not to be taken too seriously. We're laughing because this family (or at least Clark) is determined to see Wally World, regardless of the "hell" they go through. Sometimes it's just nice to sit back and laugh and not take a movie so seriously. And this is one of those movies.



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i like that you took the time to block out the spoiler parts. i don't believe my son has seen this movie. of course, he's also a bit young to waste time on the message boards too.



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The older woman's death was undoubtedly a reference to the road-trip death of a character in "The Grapes of Wrath."

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i loved that scene

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The dog didn't die IRL morons! That was just in the script so the cop could rip Chevy Chase to pieces which he did!

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Whew thanks for clearing that up! We were all thinking they killed the dog off-screen for realism. :)

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I didn't actually think I needed to explain that I only meant the "character" of the dog, not the actual dog. The only moron here is you.

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If someone really wanted to complain about animals, when Clark falls asleep and the end up in the hotel lot, watch for the old man walking his dog. When he sees Clark coming he jerks the dog clear off the ground. No one complains about that.

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I'm an animal lover, and I find this scene hilarious. Obviously no sane person thinks animal abuse is funny, but I submit that it IS possible to laugh about the dog's fate without being a terrible person.


I couldn't agree more. I own a dog who I love to pieces, but that scene is hysterical. Again like others have said there are SO many scenes in this movie that are just sick humor. The daughter/father French kissing, the dead aunt, the infinitely, the hostage of a park employee, the stereotypes of the ghetto in Detroit, the stealing of money, Clark going berserk and cursing at his family, giving alcohol to a minor, teens smoking pot, etc. I mean the movie is just one big politically incorrect feast, but that's what makes it funny!

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If someone really wanted to complain about animals, when Clark falls asleep and the end up in the hotel lot, watch for the old man walking his dog. When he sees Clark coming he jerks the dog clear off the ground. No one complains about that.


I just watched this scene again and the dog is wearing a harness, not a standard collar and leash around its neck. So it's a bit more humane than choking a dog clear off the ground.




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So attempting to cheat on his wife and holding a security guard hostage and killing an old lady, tying her up on the roof and leaving her on a patio was okay? You had no problem with that, but you draw the line with an off screen joke?

I mean, it was horrible but that's the entire reason it's funny.

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It's National Lampoon, not Disney. I love animals, and I think it's hysterical. But then I know it's a movie and not a documentary.

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Most comedies have a bit of an inhumane spot in them. Remember, even in THE MAN WHO CAME TO DINNER, they're about to send a woman into a plane trip in a coffin, which is probably lethal in real life.

What I really loved about the scene, the funniest part, was the way you could see Chevy bite his lip and try to refrain from being overjoyed that the killer dog was dead, while feigning sorrow to the policeman. This was hysterical. I loved it. If the dog was humane, I wouldn't love it, but the dog was a vicious monster whom I wouldn't want around my kids.



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Animal Abuse = Hilarious?
Yes. Why? Because no animals were harmed in the making of the film, but a few animals were harmed by watching it WAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!
Clark is such an a$$hole!
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Wow you Peta *beep* cant take a joke. People are so damn sensitive when it comes to animals. Uptight *beep*

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People are reacting as if a real dog was actually tortured to death when making this movie.

It's also wrong to think that the joke is about animal cruelty. We're not supposed to laugh at the horrible fate of the badly raised and handled carnivore pet.

We're supposed to laugh at Clark's REACTION to the realization of what happened - the whole conversation with the police officer is not only hilarious, but also sends shivers down the viewer's spine, having to think of the dog's awful, torturous fate - and knowing that's what Clark is forced to think, too, while trying to explain his innocence to the police officer as well.

It's a weird, disturbing scene, but it is funny because of Clark, not because of imagined animal cruelty (remember, we're not even shown anything cruel happening, and the dog was most certainly not tortured for real).

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I would like to add, that comedy is SUPPOSED to poke fun at ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING. It has freedom and license to do that. If something is not funny, it's not funny. The reason for something not being funny is NOT the topic, context or the subject - anything can be MADE funny, even though some humor or jokes can be disturbing and thus not recommended for young or sensitive people.

You have to remember that it's still JUST humor, JUST jokes, and nothing REAL.

Therefore, any topic, no matter how 'horrible' or 'disturbing' in real life, can be made funny and SHOULD be able to be joked about. In fact, the more 'sacred' the thing, the funnier the joke - often when the audience is disturbed, it laughs the loudest, partially because it's so unexpected that someone would make a joke about such a horrible thing.

We have to remember that the joke is almost never about laughing AT some victim of torture and horrors, it's often USING something terrible, horrible or torturous to laugh at SOMETHING ELSE.

This is a good example, because although the thought of a dog being dragged behind a car until it dies from exhaustion, physical injuries, blood loss, etc, (and its dead body is then mangled by the contact with asphalt until the body becomes small/malformed/broken enough for the head to be cut off or slip through the collar) is ABSOLUTELY terrible..

..it brings a really disturbing thought into the extremely funny discussion and reactions of the actors, which combined, is SO absurd you can't help but laugh.

It's a ridiculous, funny, harmless scene that makes you go through something uncomfortable internally, while expressing something hilarious externally.

The audience is not pointing at animal cruelty and laughing about it.

The audience is squirming because of the thoughts of horror, while the absurdity of the scene and expresions are making the audience laugh.


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It's kinda impossbile to explain to people with no sense of humor, who just see 'animal cruelty' and want to kill every joke and humor that 'disturbs' them, because they don't get it. But there's valuable humor beyond the seeming 'cruelty'.

Only a sadistic psychopath could laugh at animal cruelty, that's NOT what this movie is doing at all. The funny things are Edna, the cop's anger, Chevy's facial expressions, the absurdity of the situation, and the horrible fate of the animal is just the catalyst that finalizes the horrible absurdity of the situation, which is necessary to elevate that scene from mediocre joke to a barrel of laughs.

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