Trying to figure this out for a friend of mine. Any comments are welcome.
Movies take up 1/3 of my life. The other two parts are xbox and television.
Yes. It halved the population and tripled the survival rate, but is still good. (Despite what others might say.)
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Remake: definition--*not the same* as original.
Thus, -EB- is indeed a remake of -NM-, and listed as inspired by it.
Frankly, after watching the original, Japanese edit, I can see even more similarities in the plotlines of the respective films.
OK, so it's Sibes and Mallys instead of Karafutos...it had to be, for as far as anyone can find (and I've searched mightily), the Karafuto as a breed is either extinct or shockingly rare. Mallys and Siberians are more plentiful, so expediency trumps a possibly frustrating search. Heck, in the original film, the dogs portraying everyone are a mix of Mallys, Canadian Eskimo Dogs and Greenlanders, so the argument is...?
Hey, you guys keep saying that they were Karafuto dogs, but in the movie "Antarctica", they are called Sakalan (sp?!) dogs. Please explain why this is if you can. Thanks!
shareKarafuto-ken is just another name for the Sakhalin Husky - see the link below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakhalin_Husky
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Read the end credits of -EB-.
It clearly states "suggested by the film -Nankyoku Monogatari-".
You need to realise that before -EB- came out, an Internet search for Taro and Jiro would bring up next to nothing. Now, there are hundreds of sites discussing the Japanese expedition.
Why? Because there's renewed interest in the story--interest that was sparked by -Eight Below-.
Stop being such a snob.
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I'm sorry I yelled, but you had argued with the dictionary definition of remake, thus coming across badly. Despite the differing body-count, -EB- and -NM- are linked through the dictionary. Upon watching the HK release, I *also* found there to be more parallels in that one than in the edited American version that more people have seen.
Also, let's be honest here: even -NM- has errors when compared to the actual expedition. After *reading* the book -Pawprints in Japan- I couldn't help but wince at the way things were changed cinematically in the first film. However, I don't get rattled by the differences. I just accept them, shrug and reach for the Kleenex at the sad parts.
I haven't had a chance to read Pawprints in Japan yet. What were the changes that were made in the first film that was different from the book?
Nomad
I'm a smidge reluctant to sound like a "spoiler", but what the hey, I may as well let the...ahem...dogs off the chain.
Ochi and Ushioda? Never existed. There was only one dog handler on the expedition, Toru Kikuchi (who, I was thrilled to see, is actually thanked as a consultant in the end credits of -EB-). But since there were 2 dogs who survived, it seemed only right cinematically for there to be two handlers--and it worked out great when you think about it, more experienced Ushioda with the sometimes-gruff Taro ("Why can't you be nice, like Jiro?"), and unconfident Ochi (in the HK release, he tells Ushioda "I wish I had your confidence [about getting back to the base].") with playful younger brother Jiro.
Riki wasn't really the team's leader--he was the alternate, with the true leader being Shiro. Minor, but it sure perplexed me on my 1st read-through.
But the big difference...the dogs' collars were never tightened. In fact, Mr Kikuchi actually went out the morning of the human evacuation from Showa and actually loosened all the collars one notch, telling himself it was just in case something went wrong. Why more of the dogs didn't take advantage of this was something that puzzled Mr Kikuchi for a long time afterward. I guess it just made for a more dramatic story....
Even so, the big thing that everyone, even I, must remember is that it is still an amazing survival.
Hi Gold,
Thank you for telling us what changes were made in the movie. I had no idea that those two scientists/dog handlers were made up and never existed, but you're right the movie did work out great with those two scientists matched with their dogs.
I'm still curious on why the dogs never escaped in real life since their collars weren't tightened....I guess they wanted to wait for their human "masters" or something. Still, this movie was great about survival, loyalty and friendship.
Nomad