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Is Rupert Pupkin supposed to be funny?


I can't figure it out.

During most of the movie he never attempts to say anything funny and when he rehearsed and recorded the tape the sound muted as he was about to start his bit. I assumed that it was simply because he didn't have anything funny to say and that he was as delusional about his stand up talent as everything else.

The we finally get to see his stand up at the end and I didn't find it funny at all. The only decent line to me was "after a while the school worked it into the curriculum.".
Sure the audience laughed a lot, but live audiences will laugh at anything.

So, is the stand up scene supposed to be funny (and simply not my style of humor), or is it supposed to show that his talent only exists in his head?

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I liked his stand up. But then, I do like mean humor. I even laughed at "pride and joy."

I think he's supposed to be funny and yet not funny. This whole movie is. It messes with your mind.

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Good answer.

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I thought that Rupert's act wasn't terrible. It wasn't brilliant, but it wasn't any worse than a lot of people who make it in stand-up comedy.

In other words, he wasn't nearly as good as he believed himself to be, but Scorcese decided not to make his act a complete failure and caricature either. Perhaps Rupert is somebody who may have had some moderate talent, but the point was that he was so obsessed with celebrity that he decided to bypass the necessary school of "starting at the lowest rung of the ladder" that might have honed his material and presentation into something better.

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To me he passed for an average middle-of-the-road comedian so it worked out perfectly.

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I thought the characterisation was fairly clear. Pupkin was a talentless hack with delusions of grandeur. His act was terrible. Intentionally so, for the purposes of the movie. I mean, superficially it was competent. He didn't look fazed by being on stage and his delivery was OK. He didn't look totally out of place. But the actual gags were awful. The studio audience laughed, but they're primed to do that with the auto-cues anyway. It's not genuine.

Considering the guy spent his entire life working up that one (really bad) act, he could hardly be considered a natural comedian. I think the suggestion is there that if Pupkin had been willing to bust his balls on the bottom rung comedy circuit, repeatedly honing his act and gradually building up a reputation, he might have made it to a decent level. He could at least have been a passable comedian. What was suggested by the studio talent agent was actually fairly sound advice (once you get past her polite, thinly veiled comtempt for its subject).

But Pupkin just wasn't interested in doing that. He felt that stardom was simply his by natural right, and he was willing to go to any lengths to get it. He didn't feel that he had to work for it. He just wanted to be a celebrity by default. He wasn't of sound mind, obviously. You can see that in his totally inappropriate behaviour throughout the movie, and in his utter detachment from reality, his total absence of realistic self appraisal.

In the final scene, Pupkin is introduced on stage, and he's soaking up all this applause, but he's not actually doing anything. And that's because he has literally nothing to offer. It's not his talent that has made him famous. Just his lust for fame, and what he was willing to do to get it. He's merely famous for being famous. In the age of Paris Hilton and Kevin Federline, that's a sharper comment now than it ever was back in the early eighties. But what probably hasn't penetrated Pupkin's haze of self delusion, is that the people are really laughing at him, rather than with him. He's destined to become a figure of ridicule who will quickly be discarded to the dustbin of public interest.

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I mean, superficially it was competent. He didn't look fazed by being on stage and his delivery was OK. He didn't look totally out of place. But the actual gags were awful. The studio audience laughed, but they're primed to do that with the auto-cues anyway. It's not genuine.


True, but I feel the same way about most late-night talkshow hosts or the loud, obnoxious people on Comedy Central. A lot of Letterman's material isn't any better than RP's. And as for primed studio audiences, a late night talkshow host today will say, "They forgot to bring me ketchup for my fries last night" and they'll burst out in a spurt of sycophantic laughter.

Rupert Pupkin was delusional and pathetic, but in terms of talent, he really was no different from a lot of people who make it big.

It's not his talent that has made him famous. Just his lust for fame, and what he was willing to do to get it. He's merely famous for being famous. In the age of Paris Hilton and Kevin Federline, that's a sharper comment now than it ever was back in the early eighties. But what probably hasn't penetrated Pupkin's haze of self delusion, is that the people are really laughing at him, rather than with him. He's destined to become a figure of ridicule who will quickly be discarded to the dustbin of public interest.


In the entertainment industry, it has been about who you know rather than what you know (or rather, what you can do) from the beginning, but it's getting worse now. The stars and starlets on glossy tabloids didn't get where they are by their acting talent.

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I don't think he's supposed to be funny. Rupert isn't interested in being funny he wants to be a celebrity

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It's a little conflicting, because like the previous poster said, at the end of the movie Rupert is on stage being introduced a thousand times and having nothing to say. This indicates that he really doesn't have any thing to show. But other details in the movie prove that he was actually funny in the reality of the movie. Scorsese's own cameo in the movie as one of the TV writers suggests that Rupert is kind of funny. He reads the intro Rupert has written for Tony Randall, the guest host of the night, and says it's funny even though Randall objects.

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I think it's important to remember that Jerry's secretary listened to the tape and, as politely as possible, rejected it because she didn't think it was any good.

I think that's how we're supposed to view his routine as well. Amateurish and not worthy of a spot on national TV.

He didn't get on the show as a result of his talent, after all.





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I think it's important to remember that Jerry's secretary listened to the tape and, as politely as possible, rejected it because she didn't think it was any good.
I think that's how we're supposed to view his routine as well. Amateurish and not worthy of a spot on national TV.
He didn't get on the show as a result of his talent, after all.



You can never be sure they did listen to the tape, there are a few reasons for this.

- How many unsolicited tapes do you think a show like that gets? Dozens a week at least. If you ever get a chance to visit a publisher and see the slush pile you will get an idea of how many book manuscripts are sent in by chance, 100s. The same is true with film scripts, and no doubt comedy show tapes.

- Legal reasons, if there was a joke on the tape and Jerry in the show used a similar joke then the sender of the tape could potentially sue. There are precedents for this, music producers/writers are sent tapes all the time most do not listen to the tapes they return them unopened or give them to their lawyer to keep safe and unopened. The reason for this is as above, if they write a song with a similar melody they could be sued. This has actually happened.

For an example, 1990 when humorist Art Buchwald sued Paramount, alleging that the studio stole an idea from him and turned it into the Eddie Murphy vehicle, "Coming to America." (Mr. Buchwald received an undisclosed settlement from Paramount.)

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The very direct criticism that she gives him about his jokes indicates that his tape was, in fact, listened to.




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How was the criticism direct?

When pressed about which jokes were not funny, she didn't give any specific details. Her advice was basically the same as Jerry just with a positive spin. It came across as a line she has said many times before to other people. My comments about shows reviewing unsolicited tapes was really just a general remark, which I should of better clarified.

Watching the film I would assume she did review the tape, I doubt she listens to the entire tape if only because of she wouldn't have enough time to review everything that comes in, I'd guess they know within the first few minutes.

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You have a point in that she might not have listened to the tape in its entirety. But at least part of it was listened to. Otherwise she wouldn't have said what she did.




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I think this whole deal with the tape was misdirection. I initially interpreted her comments (and I think she is a producer, not a secretary) as politely covering for thinking it was awful. But if you go back and listen to her and actually take it at face value, she was saying he had talent, that many of his jokes were funny, that he had a lot of potential. I think based on the end, this was her sincere opinion, not just "cushioning the blow".

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He definitely isnt superstar funny. ie he does not have the potential for his career to take off in the huge way that he imagines.

He's not the absolute worst comedian that anyone has ever seen. But on any professional bill in any mediocre comedy club, he would be outshone. He'd never have got a shot at a TV spot in normal circs.


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Rupert is an overly obsessed fame seeker with limited comedic talent - that's the best way I could described him.

Whether he was funny or not, that's left to each individual viewer. From the very beginning of the film, we DID see him make jokes, e.g., when he gets into Jerry's car, Pupkin attempts to leave an impression on him by giving it his best; I for one laugh at the pride and joy joke each time. Or how about when Rupert is in Jerry's home: he's sarcastically responding to the furious Jerry pretending Jerry is mad at Rita and not him. There were many scenes that were awkwardly funny too, most notably Rupert's attempt to get into touch with Jerry by nagging the beautiful blonde, along with the fantasy scenes. As for his final routine on television, I'd call it average, but far from unfunny. Funny situations occurred whenever Pupkin was around, but his own comedic talents were not half bad... for an amateur. The problem with Pupkin was he had a lot of aspiration, but he lacked the dedication and experience to reach the top. He wanted everything to happen for him overnight, and it was implied he had never performed in front of a live audience, so he had much work to do.





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I thought it was funny that he was unfunny but he thought he was funny..

if that made sense.

Rupert acts like hes god's gift to comedy and its hilarious how delusional some people can be..Take a look at modern reality shows like X factor etc

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