Why is it humiliating for one girl (the ice skater) to dance in a strip club, but it's ok for the rest of the girls to dance in the 'artsy' club (even if part of it is having water poured on them)?
And if one of the two clubs is really more 'artsy', then why are male steel welders going there rather than to the strip club?
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" . . . then why are male steel welders going there rather than to the strip club?"
Because not all guys are horny jerks. Some would rather have a little entertainment with their glass of beer, grab a hamburger and then go home.
Really? After a hard day of welding? A bunch of steelworkers want to watch artistic dance with their beers?
Maybe this is just something that happens in Pittsburgh.
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It's more humiliating to simply writhe around naked than to perform intricate dances with costumes and sets. Seems easy to see the difference.
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And what makes the steel workers want to go to the artsy club? Afterwards do they go see a ballet or a Jacobean revenge tragedy?
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I never noticed the clientele at Mawby's. People like different things.
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Strip clubs are expensive. VERY expensive. The local hangout seemed to be the lesser of the two clubs but they probably had cheap beer, good burgers, and obviously the pretty girls were an added bonus.
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The strip club looked way more crowded. Maybe the artsy club was closer to the job site and where they went to grab a quick beer after work. That's why Nick was there. He was bonding with the guys, and staying down to earth.
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I've never really understood this argument about the movie. There are a million non-strip bars out there packed every night, even with strip-options nearby (and now, internet porn!) Guys hang out in a million different places on any given evening. And maybe there WAS a cross-selection of guys going to both; the only confirmed "regular" at Alex's bar was Nick, and that was only because he learned she worked there.
shareI go back to what I said. These are steelworkers. They are not going out to watch interpretative dance after a hard day of work.
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they probably want to come out and show their support for their fellow colleague.
share>> These are steelworkers. They are not going out to watch interpretative dance after a hard day of work. <<
Why not? What does 'steelworker' have to do with anything?
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While I am sure that many blue-collar workers have sophisticated taste in art, that taste would usually not be fulfilled when they are out in a group of guys.
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Agreed! They wouldn't care about the artistic dancing
shareHaha.
I laughed at that one. Yeah, I don't buy beer-guzzling blue collar steel workers watching Interpretive Dance after a day on the job.
On your first point: if you don't see the difference already then I don't see how anyone can explain it to you. I personally don't judge strippers, I mean if that's what they need or want to do then that's their choice. But still, there is clearly a difference between the two situations and dancing in the film.
On your second point: not ALL men like strip clubs. Not sure why that is so tough to understand. I have known men who love them and have probably seen more action in lap dances than they've ever seen in real life, I have known men who could take it or leave it and I've known men who do not like them at all.
Just because a man is a man doesn't mean he automatically enjoys strip clubs. Regardless of their occupation.
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I believe you are totally missing the point, which I made years ago. (Not sure why this thread has reawakened.) I am aware that not all men like strip clubs. But I am also aware that when men go out after work together for a couple of beers, they are unlikely to go to an artistic dance show. They are more likely to go to a strip club. Where did you get that I thought all men liked strip clubs? Please . . . respond to what I actually say, not what you assume I am saying. We all know what happens when you assume (unless you never watched the original "Odd Couple" sitcom).
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I think a big part of it, too, was the management of the clubs. At the dance club, the staff and owners clearly had respect for the dancers whereas at the strip club, they were likely not treating the dancers as well or respecting them as women. At the dance club, they were able to create their own routines and got along with the other staff, the customers and the management. At the strip club, the dancers were just being used for their bodies and talked down to.
shareI always got the impression that the strip club was new in town. Until then all they had was the artsy place where guys could get the closest possible.
It is obvious that the shows in the artsy place have sexual aspect to them.
Overall though it never made sense to me either why these guys would want to watch women dancing like that.
What is the difference between dancing at one club over the other? In the artsy place to hot to keep their clothes on. I think that blonde was also being manipulated which is why her friend was concerned.