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Anyone who makes it through all that


deserves the right to be American.

The first time we done knocked on the do, the second time we gon kick the son of a bitch in

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touché


I'm more of a man than you'll ever be and more of a woman than you'll ever get. - Angel from "Rent"

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That's what we've been saying...

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yeah man.. Most people who've beeen in this country for ages dont realize that when Their ancestors emigrated here, the process was A WHOLE LOT EASIER! Most of the time allyou needed was someone to sign for you as a garanteer. Now, anyone who wants to come here from a 3rd world country has to pretty much prove theyre not poor. Most poeple who come here have a drive for hard work and good morals. Ive seen hundreds of poeple work double shifts for YEARS wihtout complaining ..just happy to be earning an honest living.. while "citizens" who do Nothing but collect welfare... complain about these "foreigners" in thier country. This film is soo perfect in many ways.. It shoudl be Rereleased in the movies..Especially during these times.

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while "citizens" who do Nothing but collect welfare... complain about these "foreigners" in thier country. This film is soo perfect in many ways.. It shoudl be Rereleased in the movies..Especially during these times.


people are on welfare b/c of the immigrants. this movie is FULL of propaganda.and im watching it with my MEXICAN wife.we dont deny help at a hospital b/c your ILLEGAL. they dont arrest mothers and leave the babies to fend for themselves. AND the U.S. economy would not collapse if there were no wetbacks. the economy would get BETTER. im in construction in texas and work w/ wetbacks all the time. they send most of their money home, so its good for the MEXICAN economy. WE would have millions of more jobs for "our" citizens and at a better wage!!!

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right, Americans are on welfare because they got edged out of $20/day jobs by them dang foreigners. yes, that makes perfect sense. if only we could earn $20/day, everything would be better for us. yeah, yeah, that's the ticket!


I'm proud to say my poetry is only understood by that minority which is aware.

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Yes indeed.

Imagine having to sell the only heirloom you have of your recently-dead (or "disappeared") mother, for the service of being guided to a sewerpipe full of rats to crawl for miles through. (And her eventually dying of typhus from those rat scratches/bites at the end was just profoundly and painfully sad.)

I was born here in the U.S., but I realize that was just the accident of my birth. I could just as easily have been born anywhere else, including a hovel in some third world danger spot such as we saw at the beginning (or just a horrid slum like the ones we saw in Tijuana). In fact, in the year of my birth (1968) the odds were something like 3.5 million (births in the US) to 120 million (births worldwide)--or about 1 in 34--that my particular "soul" or consciousness would be born into a body within these United States, versus somewhere else. So you know what that is? Luck. A blessing, that I was born here. And there are plenty of people who have not had that blessing, who would be far more deserving of it than I or others who too often take it for granted. People like those two depicted in this movie come to mind--they gave their all for a chance at the kind of life with dignity that too many of us feel entitled to simply for having happened to come into existence here.


"No more half-measures."

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