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IS HE SUPPOSE TO PLAY BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN?


I mean really he looks like him dresses like him and talks like him. And plays a musician with a similar energy and style. I heard that back around the Born in the USA mania that Springsteen was offered roles I would not be suprised if this was one of them. Wouldnt it be interesting if this film brought Springsteen's career down and made him mediocore( happens to some rockstars when they go into film, takes focus off career and creating music and hurts there sales due to overexposure) and if Pare took something else. And today he was like Tom Cruise. That would be really interesting. Interesting indeed.

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Agreed

Must add that I saw this movie again after not seeing it for a few years and I still love it. I must have seen it 20 times minimum in the past 20 years. Awesome movie. I will never understand how Michael Pare didn't become a huge star, he is an incredible actor. Interestingly enough so many of the actors went on to amazing careers. Favorite scene is when wordman starts playing dark side for the first time, then one by one all of the others join in until the song is totally rockin'.

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From what I've read in the past a great deal of eddie was based on BRIAN WILSON of the BEACH BOYS, after Wilson's personal masterpiece PET SOUNDS failed to bacome a hit wilson became a resluse. Much like eddie after a seson in hell.
and a lot more of Eddie's style came from Jim Morrison.

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This film is most definitely based upon Jim Morrison, so much so, that when I first saw the film, with the whole rip off about Rimbaud I almost got sick. Okay if anyone knows about Jim Morrison, he really preferred to be known as James Douglas Morrison, he wanted to be known for his writing, he was a poet. One of Morrison's favorite authors, who had obvious influence on his writing (Check out Morrison's "An American Prayer"), was none other than Arthur Rimbaud. I have also read that Morrison believe he was a reincarnation of Rimbaud (probably the acid),nevertheless, he was an obvious influence. The song "Wild Child" is reportedly wrote about Rimbaud. In the movie, near the beginning, when Ellen Barkin's character, gives them a rundown on "A Season in Hell" by Rimbaud, which was the last thing the author wrote before he "committed suicide" or basically ended his writing career.At the time of Jim Morrison's untimely death, many people believe he followed Rimbaud, and ceased to write but is still alive somewhere. That is up to an individual because the only one who would know would have been Pamela, the woman he spent most of his life with and was with him when he died, yet she herself died 3 years later. Morrison's wife Patricia Kennealy (they were married in a Wiccan ceremony), believes that Pamela killed Morrison. Anyway, the point being this movie was most definitley based upon Jim Morrison: who fashioned his life around Rimbaud and always carried a copy of "A Season in Hell" even before it was translated into English from French.

ahh enough.

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That's very interesting, I am going to look into that.

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Sorry to tell you all, but this movie was based on a book written by P.F. Kluge. He was raised in Jersey and the book was about his growing up years.

Per the author's website, pfkluge.com, here is what he says about "Eddie", "A fictional examination of my weakness—lifelong weakness—for the songs of my youth. Hits come and go, the products of a season; but they return—sometimes, they seduce and reproach. The novel is set in New Jersey, much of it in Vineland where I had a summer job on the town newspaper in 1962. The novel and the film have been described as a rock and roll Citizen Kane. To this, I do not object."

The book was published in 1980. Hence the making of the moie and being released in 1983.

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while eddie obviously isnt playing a bruce spreensteen esque character, the music in the movie sounds exactly like something from a bruce springsteen album

Great post? Or, the greatest post?

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Eddie's abandoned 'Season in Hell' would be more like Brian's abandoned (and recently completed) SMiLE album. The similarities can't be overlooked.

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its the "myth" behind morrison's death/disappearance given to a character matching the most popular guy in rock at the time, Bruce Springstein

"She came into town and then she drove away
Sunlight in her hair"

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it just so happens that John Cafferty sounds a lot like Springsteen....And as far as the Morrison idea goes, I believe that although I've read a lot on Morrison and never heard the Arthur theory.

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i'm not sure but didn't morrison die in the 70's,,,,i thought eddie's dealth was in 1963??

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I,too, have read many books on Morrison and it would be difficult to miss the Rimbaud obsession. I also thought that the script leaned heavily on Morrison's life and "disappearance" whether that turned out to be an actual death, or a death of the soul, as in Rimbaud's case.

Obviously, it's not the right time period, specifically, the music is a few years earlier than the Doors, but that's not uncommon when adapting a book into a screenplay.

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No

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No way Eddie is cool and Springsteen is a hack at best.

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anyone who is deeply affected by springsteen's music (not everybody is) will tell you there is a deep and strange dreamlike quality to the songbook and entire springsteen mythos. i don't know how to exlain it more than to say his music can really haunt your dreams, both waking and sleeping, in a powerful way. it has haunted mine. the makers of this movie are taking one facet of the springsteen dream and putting it on film.

springsteens songs have a cinematic and novelistic quality, so no surprise that this movie comes along...

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Springsteen is a genius. Eddie is fictional, though the Eddie as cross of Springsteen (or rather John Cafferty, who has almost the exact same singing voice) and Morrison is a good match.

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I think a big percentage of Eddie is based on Springsteen. It's a Jersey Shore band that sounds a lot like Springsteen & the E-Street Band. There's a Clarence Clemons-like saxophonist. And Eddie has Bruce's trademark stage banter with the crowd down pat, including the lengthy band introductions. The energy of the Cruisers' shows is a lot like Springsteen's shows, too. I think the similarities between Eddie and Bruce are more obvious if you're a fan of Bruce and have seen him in concert.

Now, Eddie isn't exactly like Bruce. He does have a lot of Jim Morrison in there and probably Brian Wilson. Overall, the movie is a tribute to the mystique of rock and roll, and blends in qualities of various famous frontmen.

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I heard John Cafferty and Bruce Springsteen were friends. I wonder how Bruce feels about "Eddie And The Cruisers".

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I know Clarence Clemons (The Sax player for the E Street Band) and John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band were friends from long before either of the two bands were famous. Especially Clarence and Michael "Tunes" Antunes (Wendell Newton and the sax player for the band), so the similarities don't bother me too much, especially when you consider that a lot of bands from the same region will have a similar sound (Like the Southern Rock thing, and a lot of the "hair" metal bands were from Los Angeles).

Since from what I've seen other than Patti whom Springsteen married, he was closest to Clarence, it makes sense that he's at least heard of the other band, especially with them hitting what was basically one hit wonder status in the eighties. So I figure if he had a problem with them it would've come out then and we all wouldn't be wondering about it 28 years later.

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Music supervisor Kenny Vance asked writer/director Martin Davidson to describe his fictitious band and their music. Initially, Davidson said that the Cruisers sounded like Dion and the Belmonts, but when they meet Frank, they have elements of Jim Morrison and The Doors. However, Davidson did not want to lose sight of the fact that the Cruisers were essentially a Jersey bar band and he thought of Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band. The filmmaker told Vance to find him someone that could produce music that contained elements of these three bands. Davidson was getting close to rehearsals when Vance called him and said that he had found the band - John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band from Providence, Rhode Island. Davidson met the band and realized that they closely resembled the band as described in the script, right down to a Cape Verdean saxophone player, whom he cast in the film. Initially, Cafferty was hired to write a few songs for the film, but he did such a good job of capturing the feeling of the 1960s and 1980s that Davidson asked him to score the film.

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Eddie sounds like many other singers who are also from New Jersey, really.
His character is a general composite of fairly typical rock singers too, which was kinda the point - He represents the mindset of a whole genre.

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