Danny Dalhburg
I was wondering what Danny Dalhburg was doing outside when the bomb went off
Dad had gotten mom and the sister in the celler. What was Danny still doing outside
Danny was filling milk jugs with water. Jim had told Danny that they needed about half a dozen. Danny just couldn't finish in time.
shareWhat I'd like to know, that other farming family...with the two little kids, what were THEY still doing outside? The mother told the kids to come into the house right away and it takes about half an hour for the missiles to travel to their intended target so what was the whole family doing out there?
shareThey were packing up, getting ready to leave. That's why the truck was full of stuff, they took the time to gather up as many of their possessions after the missile launched. Not very smart, but at least the farmer and his wife got to go out with a bang.
shareTwo bangs, if I recall correctly. ;)
shareThat second family had no choice but to move - the Dahlberg's were up to 20 miles or more from the centres of Kansas city or the missile silos and yet their farm was strewn with large lumps of dirt and chunks of debris that would have to have been flung over many miles as if they were just specks of dust.
The other folks lived with a silo visible from their yard, Airman McCoy explained to his team that no amount of shielding will defend them if a nuke bursts directly above the silo, so that family had no choice but to pack their car because their house (basement, yard, vehicles, everything) was about to be vaporized into carbon. They just took too long to pack up.
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I always assumed, because they didn't get the X-ray treatment, the family at the silo never got the direct hit. Ironic, I thought, because of what McCoy said, that perhaps a Soviet missile missed its mark and they could have hunkered down in the basement, though long-term survival would be another story.
shareYes, I also assumed the Soviet missile destined for their silo missed by a wide margin. They could see the silo from their windows. If it had been an accurate, direct hit, they would have been vaporized instantly.
shareYes, I also assumed the Soviet missile destined for their silo missed by a wide margin.
Soviet missile of that era had much large CEPs than comparable US missiles, which is why on average they tended to use larger yield warheads.
CEP: Circular Error Probable.
The measure of the accuracy of the missile system.
The CEP is a range circle around the target at which at least 50% of the warheads fired at the target are expected to fall within.
US missiles had CEPs within a few hundred meters
Soviet Missiles had CEPs of a kilometer or more. Thus the Soviets used more higher Kiloton yield and Megaton yield nukes than the US.
Typical US nuke is only 475Kt.
In fact we only have a single weapon in the megaton range and thats a "Dial-a-Yield" free fall bomb with a 1.2Mt yield on it's highest setting.
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They were staring at the missiles going up in shock and awe. Then they tried to get loaded. Due to the parents deciding to get a nooner then the wife deciding to get cleaned up and the husband out on the tractor doing his farming they missed all of the ebs alerts prior to the missile launches.
What I would like to know is, whether or not the family near the Silo felt any pain before they died. Judging by the way the flames hit them, they weren't vapourised instantly so do you think they suffered in the way of burning to death?
shareJudging by the way the flames hit them, they weren't vapourised instantly so do you think...
You cant go making realistic determinations based upon inaccuracy and limitations of TV special effects.
Even the "Xray scenes" were more sensationalistic than realistic.
Even the famous image of the shadow of a vaporized man at Hiroshima, is not proof he was vaporized. The shadow was left by the intense flash of the detonation and a man sitting on the steps. The man being blown away with the following blast wave isn't conclisive to him being vaporized.
Very little of things destroyed by a nuke are actually vaporized to atoms. Even the bomb itself is not fully vaporized and remaining bomb residue bonding to debris sucked up into the rising mushroom cloud is what fallout itself is after all.
Most human beings killed outright before even the blast wave, are charred beyond life, beyond all recognition by the thermal pulse, but not vaporized.
In that sense.... the Playground nuke scene in T2 is more realistic than the X-Ray scenes in this. though even there it's overplayed by the powdery consistency depicted once the blast arrives.
As far as the family is concerned, for what the show was trying to depict, the family was killed instantly. Not vaporized, but surely killed faster than human nerve conduction velocity.
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