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With Trump In Office, New Relevance


One can easily see a nuclear war starting based on the latest Trump tweet could they not?

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No. Only liberal idiots would.

I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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There's no real arguing about my original post. The Day After was specifically made in reaction to the U.S.-Soviet Arms race. Now, Donald Trump has all but called for a new Arms Race over Twitter. So why anyone would even argue that The Day After is not relevant again is beyond me.

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You asked about a nuclear war STARTING, not a nuclear arms race.


I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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I think that some people feel that Trump's comment at a briefing about National Security, "If we have nuclear weapons, why don't we just use them?" is a cause for concern.

BTW: In this country I think that we can have disagreements about politics without calling each other stupid, petty names.

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I think that some people feel that Trump's comment at a briefing about National Security, "If we have nuclear weapons, why don't we just use them?" is a cause for concern.


Trump is pretty flippant and runs off at the mouth.
His demeanor is not presidential, and is why I did NOT vote for him in the Primary. Not about his stance on the issues.

But people do need to get over the fact that offhand remarks from him are just that. flippant offhand remarks, not actual statements of intent.

So no, other than a lack of couth, his remarks dont worry me.


BTW: In this country I think that we can have disagreements about politics without calling each other stupid, petty names.


But liberal idiots ARE IN FACT, idiots.

How else would you account for them idolizing Dictatorial mosters like Castro, Che, and Chavez as freedom fighters. Of them siding with Muslims who murder Gays, but call Christians Homophobes. Of them believing there are dozens of genders and you get to emotionally pick which one you are rather than there being 2, Male and Female. How do you explain adults throwing whining temper tantrums, and needing safe spaces and coloring books and therapy when someone does not agree with them.

Special fücking snowflakes.

Idiot is the kindest thing I can call them.



I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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There's plenty of arguing over your post - it's extraordinarily unlikely the world will end because of a tweet. Poor little snowflake, you are all in a fantasy-world.

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Easy sailor, remember most of the people who post comments like that weren't adults during the cold war or were even born then. They have no concept of the terror we lived with when the Soviet Union wanted to rule the world. Hell, most of these people think it's cool to wear "Che" t-shirts, not realizing what a murdering thug he really was.



"We're paratroopers lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded"
Captain Winters, Bastogne, 1944

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Easy sailor, remember most of the people who post comments like that weren't adults during the cold war or were even born then.


I'm not convinced they're adults now. What with their safety pins, safe spaces, micro-aggressions, temper tantrums, whining and crying and wailing about.

USS Halsey CG23, USS Kitty Hawk CV63...
Those were my "Safe Spaces".



I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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and don't forget they didn't get their "Participation Trophy". My God, what has this country become?





"We're paratroopers lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded"
Captain Winters, Bastogne, 1944

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You REALLY think a nuclear war could start with a stupid tweet? You cannot possibly be that naïve. And it's very obvious you have never spent time in the military.




"We're paratroopers lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded"
Captain Winters, Bastogne, 1944

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Yes I do.

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Well, then you are more clueless about life than I gave you credit for.



"We're paratroopers lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded"
Captain Winters, Bastogne, 1944

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So you're claiming it is physically impossible then?

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For a nation, let's say Russia, or China to start dropping nukes, ESPECIALLY over something as minor and stupid as a tweet, would bring such world condemnation, the ramifications would be astounding. So no, another sovereign nation launching nuclear warheads at the U.S. over a tweet would not happen.



"We're paratroopers lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded"
Captain Winters, Bastogne, 1944

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"So no, another sovereign nation launching nuclear warheads at the U.S. over a tweet would not happen."

LOL. In The Complete Idiot's Guide To the Internet the author wrote:

I've heard it said that the Internet will lead to world peace. As people use the Net to communicate with others around the world, a new era of understanding will come to pass...blah, blah, blah. The same was said about the telegraph and the television, but so far, there hasn't been much of a peace spinoff from those technologies! But what makes me sure the Internet will not lead to world peace (and may lead to a world war) is the prevalence of flame wars in mailing lists and newsgroups.
It's pretty amazing how something can escalate. There was a man who started a duel just because someone made an insulting remark about his moustache. And when you get down to it, isn't every war just the natural outcome of a heated argument that got out of hand?

I think the OP was just saying that Trump's ill-thought-out tweet about expanding the nuclear arsenal sounded a bit like warmongering.

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Really? So a duel can be compared to nuclear war. He just sounds like another a55-hurt lib crying over the election of the evil Trump who wants to make America strong again since the military was gutted in the last 8 years and combat-experienced generals and admirals replaced by "yes men and women" for the administration.


"We're paratroopers lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded"
Captain Winters, Bastogne, 1944

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"So a duel can be compared to nuclear war."

Duels are fought when there is honour to defend. The nuclear arms race of the Cold War has been compared to a duel. Though Carl Sagan said it was like "two sworn enemies standing waist deep in gasoline, one with three matches, the other with five." Wars in general, like duels, have a tendency to start over a disagreement where each party is convinced that they are right (or they have God on their side), and feels like they have too much to lose if they back down. The obvious difference between a duel and a war is the number of deaths. But the principle (a release of pent-up agression towards an adversary) is the same.

As for Trump, most Americans who actually made the effort to vote preferred to have Clinton as president. Trump got in because of a loophole. Trump's campaign rhetoric "Make America great again" even contradicts what he said in his victory speech:

"For those who have chosen not to support me in the past, of which there were a few people, I'm reaching out to you for your guidance and your help so that we can work together and unify our great country.”
The day Trump was elected, America had suddenly gone back to being "a great country." 

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As for Trump, most Americans who actually made the effort to vote preferred to have Clinton as president. Trump got in because of a loophole.


You poor clueless deluded liberal idiot.

It isnt a loophole. Its not a bug, it's a feature.

The USA is not a democracy. The popular vote does not matter at all. And that is by deliberate design of our founding fathers to protect us from Mob Rule.

Make no mistake about it. Mob Rule is exactly what a pure democracy is.

The electoral college is not a "loophole" you schmuck.

It prevents a small number of highly populated states from siezing control over all the other states.

A pure democracy, which is what you want if it is to be decided by the popular vote... is two wolves and a sheep deciding by vote whether to have mutton for supper.
Works great for the wolves, not so much for the sheep.

We are NOT a democracy. We are a REPUBLIC.
In a Republic the rights of the minority is protected from the mob rule of the majority.


"I pledge allegiance to the flag og the United States of America.
And to the Democracy, for which it sta...."

Wait. What?


Oh yeah... To the REPUBLIC for which it stands.






I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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"It isnt [sic] a loophole. Its [sic] not a bug, it's a feature."

Well, if your country gets a president that most voters didn't want, your system for electing presidents is outmoded and flawed. You should change it.

Democracy is great. 

http://www.thelocal.dk/20160317/denmark-elections-best-in-the-world

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Democracy is great.


...says the clueless idiot who ignored every aspect exposing a pure democracy for what it is.

In a pure democracy, if 51% of the people decided to execute the other 49%... that would be perfectly legal.
In a pure democracy, the 49% have no legal standing or rights whataoever.

You really want to live in such a world where libtard morons who think they know better than you whats good for you to DICTATE the law to you?

I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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Of course the U.S. is a democracy! True, it is not a direct democracy, but it is a representive democracy, albeit a far from perfect one. As for Mob Rule since Trump is a populist, it's actually the 'mob' that chose Trump, against the wishes of the ruling eatablishment. Look at all the establishment Republicans the hedged their support for him.

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Cruz is hardly an "Establishment Republican"

And no. We are a Republic.
A "Constitutional Republic" is our form of Government.

I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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We are in big trouble..

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We are in big trouble..


I'll say. Who's going to pay for my Section 8 housing and give me my welfare checks?

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Well, maybe Trump can make those welfare kings and queens get off their dead asses and get a job instead of laying up in government housing, "getting their nails did" watching Jerry Springer on the big screens while talking on their Obama phones.



"We're paratrooper lieutenant. We're supposed to be surrounded"
Captain Winters, Bastogne, 1944

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One can easily see a nuclear war starting based on the latest Trump tweet could they not?
No; not really.

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You've got it backwards. Trump is aiming to strengthen ties between the US and Russia. If it's a war with the Russians you're worried about, Clinton would have been the one more likely to take us down that route.

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You've got it backwards. Trump is aiming to strengthen ties between the US and Russia. If it's a war with the Russians you're worried about, Clinton would have been the one more likely to take us down that route.


Possibly, but I was really thinking more about U.S-China relations. You make a good point though.

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Yeah, I get what you're saying, but I still think that Trump isn't interested in getting involved in other countries affairs. Time will tell.

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Such name calling, Dude. Now that is as American.

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Delusional much?

I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!

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Give me a break OP. I didn't even vote for Trump and this whole political luring crap is ridiculous.



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