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Horowitz makes the movie


He has the best dialogue and can scrap with the best of them. He doesn't take sh-t from anyone. Personally, I think he had bigger cajones than O'Brien. They should have done a sequel showing Horowitz coming out a solitary to take out Lofgren.

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The only problem I had with Horiwitz in the whole movie was during an edited scene when he and O'Brien are trying to watch a movie, when Paco and Viking sit behind him calling him "Lipshitz". Kind of out of character, he says "the name is Horiwitz" and kind of let them get under his skin, before he and O'Brien get up and walk off. I can see why they took that scene out, but in some versions of the film, like when it was on Showtime the other day, it still exists.

He was probably one of the best characters in the film.

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I too really enjoyed the movie and Eric's performance was great he did a good job in Author Author as well..I googled his name and located his address and sent him a picture from Bad Boys which he willingly signed with a brief letter..Too bad he didnt do more acting..He may not have been much to look at according to some people..But he could deliver the goods..

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That is so cool Golden Gunn!

Can you tell us what Eric said in his letter?

Joe

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Yeah, it sucks that he quit acting.

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lol think that was my fav line. "if ur lipshits......"
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He does make the movie, but it's funny that I didn't remember him from watching this movie as a little kid (maybe 9 years old) on HBO!

All I remembered from back then was Sean Penn whacking a bully with the Soda can pillow case, some black kid being thrown off the balcony to his death, and using corrosives to eat away at the chain link fence. That's it.

But seeing it now as an adult I realize how much I missed, and little Horowitz and his spunky attitude, his fearlessness, and his sharp wit was one of the best parts of the movie.

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I loved Horowitz. He was a little badass indeed! He was obviously very smart and had the intelligence to carry himself far if he went on the straighten arrow outside of prison.

The only thing that annoyed me about him was he has the moments of being a cool badass, but he can’t handle the consequences that come with it. He humiliates Viking in the lunchroom and then freaks out when he’s hauled away to Solitary. And like a diabolical genius he gets his revenge by giving Viking the radio bomb, and then has a complete meltdown when he’s told he had to serve the remainder of his time in Solitary.

I think if I hated Solitary that much (I’m claustrophobic, so I know I would) I would probably have to rethink my desire for revenge a few times over first.


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Horowitzzzzzzzzzz as the mouse trap snaps on the guards finger...classic.

Or telling O'Brien ,perrettis? weed is sh*t

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I remember watching this movie as a kid. It was around '85/'86. I was about seven or eight years of age when the parents decided to rent some movies and pop them into their $600 Panasonic 'top loader'. Bad Boys (along with The Last House on the Left and The Evil Dead - Imagine watching those two films at such a young age! Turned me into a horror fan, btw) just so happened to be on the rental list.

Something about this film stuck with me even 'till this day. I also saw a couple alternate versions on cable on such stations as TBS. (TBS seemed to play this a lot back in the day) This only 're-sparked' my interest in the film. I saw it a couple more times as a teenager. Like I said, there is/was something about this film that just hangs with you. Penn's character is great. Eric Gurry is great. All the actors did their part. It's a gritty urban tale of 'big dreams gone awry', accompanied by unloosed feelings and revenge. One of the best films from the early 80's. (Maybe even the whole decade) Great film.



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If I had been in his position, I would've gladly taken solitary. That way, nobody else can do anything to me. But even if I wouldn't, it wouldn't have curtailed my desire for revenge so much.

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I was fully expecting that after he was flailing away and screaming that he didn't want to go into solitary, that they'd cut to him sitting there with a big smile on his face, like that's where he wanted to go in the first place.

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That would have been a great turn around, runforthesun, but you gotta remember, Horowitz really doesn't want a *beep* mute in his cell'.

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Horowitz was BAD ASS!

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All I can say is that this movie rocks. For years I have looked for it. No one seems to play it. Sean Penn seems to have a knack for choosing movies that have great dialogue and memorable characters who have a soul. Another great Sean Penn movie in a different genre is "Racing with the moon." Really touching. I think he is a person who really reads literature. His influences are from great american authors. He has quoted the works of the great writer, William Saroyan in newspaper articles. I think these influences are why he recognizes good scripts, his movies are timeless and rarely makes bomb.

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And right after that when he delivers the "happy" line: "The last guy that was in here with me killed himself by drinking a half-gallon of disinfectant he liked the place so much." What a welcome to the prison!

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Obviously Horowitz makes the movie. It would not have been nearly as good without him. This small, intelligent, weak-looking Jewish boy at first glance looks totally unfit to survive in this tough environment. Yet, through his intelligence and determination he not only survives, but thrives. He beats the physically impressive Viking by using a sneak attack appropriate for someone small fighting someone much bigger and stronger. And, he fearlessly attacks the warden and guards by using one of the warden's golf clubs. This boy is tough.

By the end of the movie, the authorities, and most of the viewers, are convinced that despite his outward appearance, Horowitz is one of the most dangerous criminals they have in this institution. It certainly would not be surprising to learn of his involvement in serious crimes, and perhaps even murders, after his stay in juvie.

The best part about Horowitz is his smart-aleck sense of humor, which fills in the gap formed by the limited sense of humor displayed by Mick O'Brien. I crack up when he asks the newly-arrived Mick, after he ran a gauntlet of harassing and spitting prisoners, "So, how do you like it so far?"

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Horowitz was definitely the best character in the movie. Penn and Morales were great but Eric stole the movie. My favorite line of his was when Penn and him are at the secruity gates before they try to escape and Penn asks "Can you really get this done", and Horowitz says "Leave It To Beaver". The way he delievers that line is classic. I was surprised to see that line not in the memorable quotes section of this movie.

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Yeah, the Horowitz character was amusing for a movie but if the script would have been a little more realistic, Horowitz would have been everyone's favorite 'victim', Why? Well he weighed 70lbs wet, had NO gang Connections, and was a smart ass that more than a few inmates didn't exactly like....yet he existed untouched in a juvenile prison full of street hardened gang members and delinquents...all the movie needed was for Rod Serling to walk thru and say "Little jewish kid, well respected in a juvenile prison full of street toughs, Welcome to...The Twilight Zone." LOL

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He was good at fixing stuff. His handyman chores were probably whored out by Peretti, keeping him relatively safe. And even if not, his skills might make him as worthwhile as Peretti.


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You have a point. But I wouldn't say Peretti because he was a rapist and that is considered a 'punk' crime on the scale of crimes done by inmates. I could really see Tweety and Viking using Horowitz as their personal property and also loaning out his fixit skills to other inmates.

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Horowitz should have been nominated for an oscar.

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Horowitz was the brains and the comic relief.

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Agreed. The actor was quite believable as an inmate, for such a scrawny kid... Shame he quit acting.






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Totally agree; they were all good, but Horowitz was just a likeable, funny character.

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Great thread!

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