Murdered Family


Hi, all:

Liked the film, but a bit confused as to who the family members are that he murdered. We see him follow the woman home from the bank, and it seems they don't know each other. Then, when he arrives there at night, she seems to know about the murder. Finally, although she's kind to him, he kills them all. So who are they? His relatives? Just random folks who took him in?

Antonio

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. . . a bit confused as to who the family members are that he murdered.
That had me puzzled too. I'd especially like to know who the elderly woman (that he also kills) was.

IMO that little puzzle did not add anything to the film. In fact, on the contrary.

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Paused the film to catch information on the cast credits and voila - got spoiled by an idiot who posts "Murdered Family" in the subject line. Very lame.

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Me too!

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What's lame is you pausing the film halfway through to look up pointless information. Would you do that if you were watching the film in a cinema, as intended? I mean, just get up halfway through to go look at the poster in the foyer? No, I don't think you would.

If you're watching a movie then watch the movie. Toilet breaks are one thing, but pausing the movie to browse the web isn't really engaging with the material in the way the filmmakers intended.

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The first scene is the whole movie.
The only relation the son has to his father and family is money.
The family, the idea of it, was murdered from the start in a figurative sense.

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The old lady and Yvon are not related: she is simply a kindly woman who feels sorry for him. Yvon trusts her and tells her his story, but then he kills them all because he has been corrupted by desire for money, and maybe also he is jealous as he has no family of his own left.

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Not to be rude to the people on this thread but at least according to my subtitles they are his parents and siblings. The old woman refers to the old man as his father, Yvon talks to her about how she always sacrificed herself for them and when they hear the footsteps she camly informs him that it's his sister and her husband.

+ When he gives himself up he tells the policeman that he murdered HIS entire family.

Somebody here has been drinking and I'm sad to say it ain't me - Allan Francis Doyle

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Thank you Cindermans_gloede....I'm not sure which film these other posters were watching lol...it's pretty clear who they were.

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Umm, in fact the lady is just a random woman who lodges him out of pure kindness. She has no relation whatsoever with Yvon.

She adresses Yvon with "vous", not "tu", making clear that they are not mother and son.

When they hear the footsteps she tells him it's HER sister and brother-in-law:
"C'est ma soeur et mon beau-frère, les parents du petit"
(It's my sister and my brother-in-law, the boy's parents).

And then she says:
"J'ai aussi une autre soeur, qui ne revient pas tous les soirs"
(I also have another sister, who doesn't sleep here every night).
This is barely an info that a mother would tell her son only after he's a grown-up, isn't it, that she has another sister;)?

In fact, the old man is HER father; when the lady brings Yvon his morning coffee and the old man stops her, she calls him "Papa". The old man is angry because she lodges a stranger, so he says, "tu ne le connais pas" ("you don't know him"), calls her mad and slaps her.

I suspect the old man is the lady's father-in-law, because later she tells Yvon:
"Ce n'est qu'après la morte de mon mari qu'il s'est mis à boire, et qu'il a perdu ses élèves"
(It's only after the death of my husband that he started drinking and lost his pupil).

I still don't understand tho' why he should kill the kind lady, whom he trusts enough to tell about his first murder and who nevertheless still agrees to lodge him!

"I can resist everything except temptations." - Oscar Wilde.

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I took it to be just a random kind woman who took him in and it was a sign of just how fully corrupted Yvon is by the inhumanity of money and people that, despite the woman's kindness, he just emotionlessly murders the whole family for no particular reason. I was thinking that if this film was Hollywood-made, Yvon would have spent the second half of the movie getting revenge on all the people who screwed him over but instead Bresson has Yvon become even more evil than those betrayed him. The film shows random cruelties causing other random cruelties in a never-ending cycle.

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Haha, gloede, it's definitely your subtitles.

Polus, I've just gotten myself some marvelous tyrannical power!

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Moral of the story: don't try to use counterfeit bills. Or, always agree to give your kid more in allowance so he doesn't have to use counterfeit bills. The lives of two hotel owners and an entire family just might be at stake.

All in the game yo. All in the game.

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I thought the old man was his father but the woman he followed from the bank was not his mother but the family's servant.

A bird sings and the mountain's silence deepens.

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