MovieChat Forums > 10 to Midnight (1983) Discussion > Roger Ebert gave this movie zero stars!

Roger Ebert gave this movie zero stars!


Ebert just set up his new website that includes all his old reviews, and I was a bit surprised to see he gave "10 to Midnight" such a negative review. I can understand how it might turn off some people, but his reaction was a bit too strong. Or is it? Look for yourself.

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19830315/REVIEWS/303150301/1023


This is a scummy little sewer of a movie, a cesspool that lingers sadistically on shots of a killer terrifying and killing helpless women, and then is shameless enough to end with an appeal to law and order. The people who made "From Ten to Midnight" have every right to be ashamed of themselves -- and that includes Charles Bronson, whose name on the marquee is the only reason anybody would come to see it.

The movie stars Bronson as a Los Angeles police captain on the trail of a mad slasher. Now see if this plot sounds familiar: The creep is a psychopath who gets his kicks out of anonymous phone calls to women. After he warms up over the phone, he likes to crawl into their apartments, take off his clothes, and run around stark naked carving them up with butcher knives. There are, of course, the usual shots in which horrified naked women cower in the corners of shower stalls, etc.

One of the women in danger is Bronson's own daughter. And when he knows who the killer is, he plants evidence to convict him. Then, after an attack of conscience, he admits what he has done. Case dismissed. Then the killer strikes again, and the movie ends in a berserk chase scene. See if you can make sense of it.

Bronson's daughter runs out of a house, the naked killer runs after her, Bronson arrives at the house some minutes later, finds the dead bodies of his daughter's roommates, runs out of the house and then (remember, the others have a five-minute head start) is inexplicably able to run so fast that he is ahead of his daughter, catches her in his arms, and aims his pistol at the killer. Shades of "Death Wish" and "Death Wish II."

This utter B.S. is par for the course in a movie so ineptly made that key scenes take place offscreen. Example: The daughter of Bronson's friends is murdered. Bronson and his partner (Andrew Stevens) drive to the house to break the news. They make small talk about the old neighborhood, and how smoking is bad for your health. Bronson knocks on the door of the house. He goes inside to tell the parents their daughter is dead. Cut immediately to the unmarked car again, as Bronson and Stevens drive away from the house. After all of that limp buildup, the movie never shows Bronson talking to the parents. Why not? Too hard to act? And yet it's a key experience because it directly inspires Bronson to plant the crucial evidence.

Logic isn't the problem with this movie, however. A lack of humanity is. The movie lingers on the faces of screaming women. It revels in its bloodbaths. Gore spurts all over the screen. The final sequence is so disgusting that I wrote the first sentence of this review in my mind while I was watching it. This movie indicates that Charles Bronson just doesn't care any more, and is just going through the motions for the money. I admired his strong, simple talent once. What is he doing in a garbage disposal like this?

reply

[deleted]

True dat, most movies of nowadays just plain suck.

reply

I just saw this, and it was cut to bits on the action channel.

reply

I can't imagine watching this movie on cable, unless you can see it on Cinemax where I 1st did, you won't get the full effect of this masterpeice. The nudity and blood is off the charts. The scene with Leo and Warren at the police station is comedy at it's finest, one of the best Q&A's in movie history.

reply

I certainly do NOT agree w/ Eberts review of this movie. Ebert has given some unfair reviews in the past (Full Metal Jacket, thumb down??), and this is no excpetion. Its a dark, intelligent and well acted film. I do know that Gene Siskel liked it, I bet they argued about this one. Bronson is a hard ass as usual, Gene Davis is positivley creepy and convincing and Lisa Eilbacher is very underrated as an actress, especially conveying stress.

reply

I remember Ebert bringing up 10 to Midnight when he and Siskel argued over film quality, like he was shocked that Siskel could like it. Really disrespectful.

reply

I'm going to have to break tradition and defend Ebert here. I think his problem was with the graphic quasi-misogynist violence and the over-the-top shock stuff.

And on a technical level, is anyone going to tell me that that flick is NOT a mess? Even by early 1980s B-grade criteria, this movie has so many sloppy mistakes and bad screenwriting as to be laughable.

All that said, I was thoroughly entertained and had a great time watching it. There is no rule that says that crappy movies can't be enjoyable, but there is a rule that a critic's review should factor in the objective elements of technical film-making. So we can like it, but Ebert had to rip it.

reply

zillion, I think you bring up some good points. The movie was a bit sloppy in some ways (knifing scenes and some acting by peripheral characters). But Ebert went way overboard. It is just not as bad as he describes.

reply

Yeah, this is the same guy who praised Last House On The Left and yet he loathed 10 To Midnight.

Go figure...

reply

Ebert has a thing about violence against women in movies, although he apparently thinks there's far too little of them shaking their breasts at the camera for no good reason these days. Maybe the the fact that the killers get theirs in LHOTL (which is enjoyable and effective exploitation, but, despite what critics have said, still just exploitation) makes it okay with him.

reply

It might be necessary for Ebert to "rip" this movie, but Zero Stars is going too far, this movies isn't nearly incompetent enough for that.

"I was making a sandwich"-
Paul Kersey (Charles Bronson): Death Wish 4

reply

[deleted]

I notice that any time a film involves blatant violence against women, Ebert tends to go apes*hit in his review and usually gives the film zero stars or completely slams the film in general, yet if the film contains more 'erotic' elements (especially homoerotic), he's much more kind to the film.

What this means or says about dear ol' Roger? I have no idea, but it's worth pointing out.



------

Wait a minute... who am I here?

reply

Although Ebert has certainly liked some horror films, he tends to not like the genre or even pay attention to it most of the time (likely because he knows he doesn't like most horror films). What he objected to in this film seemed most strongly to be the elements that are similar to a (gory) slasher flick. There's nothing "objective" about that. He has a very prominent bias. This film, and others like it, clearly make him angry.


Brandt Sponseller
www.CarnyBarker.com

reply

I think the biggest weakness in this film is the editing. I can live with bad acting, which this film gets plenty of from the minor cast, but editing-wise it's all mucked up. How did Bronson catch up to Stacy so fast in the last scene? Well, probably by driving his car and hunting him down, but we don't actually see it. In the trailer, he's shown running down a flight of marble stairs that might have been from that sequence. Was it deliberately taken out? Was it lost?

I don't want to dump on someone's son, but Peter Lee Thompson did not seem to have the knack for being an editor. If you watch Murphy's Law, The Evil That Men Do, etc., you'll see clothing disappear and appear, sound errors, a ton of it. I am no technician, but these mistakes are obvious.

reply

Movie critics are so credible as I am. I (and lots of other people ) know more about movies that most of them. A movie is bad because they say it´s bad ? I have to agree that some movies are really truly nasty ,but that it´s just being real. I like what I like , you like what you like and that´s all. They´re just paid to write (or say ) good or bad about a movie by "someone", or simply like to play intelectuals saying that they only like Hitchcock and Orson Wells (with all respect).

reply

!0 til Midnight is pretty vile at times,but it is one the better explotation movies of the 80's and is pretty good as a Bronson movie.

Roger Ebert does not know a good movie from his fat pompous ass.

Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead

reply

Remember Ebert gave Last House on the Left 4 stars and its remake Chaos 0. Doesn't make sense.

Most people are so ungreatful to be alive, but not you. Not anymore.
~Saw~

reply

Plus Ebert "reveled" himself in naked female bodies with "Beyond The Valley of the Dolls" or whatever the hell it was. He also gave "Fast Times at Ridgemont High" zero, as well as "The Hitcher" and "Police Academy", all of which are cult classics. Like anybody you know, sometimes I'm with him, sometimes I slap my head.

I give *him* zero stars for this review.

reply

A lot of critics seem to think think "Last House" was some kind of masterpiece. That movie was no better than a hundred different B-movies I've seen. It was nowhere near as good as 10 to Midnight.

reply

[deleted]

Why do you care what some (celebrity) reviewer thought of this movie? Don't trust any reviews, see the movie by yourself.
My trust in Bronson was completely regained because of 10 to Midnight, after seeing half-assed Murphy's Law, which I didn't manage to finish.

m

reply

Ebert's a purple lipped beotch.

reply

**SPOILER ALERT**



I like Roger Ebert, but I think was was wrong here. Not only that, he included all kinds of spoilers in his review which guaranteed that anyone reading his review couldn't possibly expect to go out and see "10 to Midnight" and expect to be surprised. Roger Ebert usually was the voice of reason between the Siskel & Ebert duo, but here is showed a mean spiritedness that was beneath him.












If you love and support Michael Jackson 100%, copy & paste this into your signature. We love MJ!

reply

There is nothing ironic or hypocritical (as a lot of people here seem to think) about Ebert loving trashy sex romps and tons of female nudity but not liking it when gratuitous female nudity ends with murder.

I happened to really like this movie, but I think a lot of these Cannon exploitation flicks from the '80s have aged really well. At the time, the flaws -- like lousy editing and fractured storytelling -- tended to dominate most of the film critics' experiences.

Compare this review with Ebert's review of a later J. Lee Thompson-Charles Bronson collaboration, Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects. http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19890303/REV IEWS/903030304/1023 He gave Kinjite one star, but calls it "Bronson's most polished movie in a long time; it's slimy, but slick ... here is a movie directed with some energy and style by the old war-horse J. Lee Thompson."

But the reason he hates the movie is because of a gang rape scene of a little girl. He says, "Child molestation may be a subject for a sincere and serious movie, but not for a slick thriller. There is a breakdown of taste here."

As others have pointed out, violence against women on film really sends Ebert off the deep end, but I think his review of Kinjite is much better than his review of 10 to Midnight. He's upfront about exactly why he hated the movie, but he praises the movie's good points, too.

http://ocdviewer.wordpress.com

reply

Another thing you have to keep in mind when reading Ebert's review is the fact that the final murder spree is clearly drawn from the details of Richard Speck's horrific murder spree in a nurses' dormitory one night in 1966, which took place in Chicago.

Ebert is a Chicagoan, so it seems reasonable to assume that he was deeply affected by that terrible event, and seeing a version of it in an exploitation movie made him really angry.

http://ocdviewer.wordpress.com

reply


"I happened to really like this movie, but I think a lot of these Cannon exploitation flicks from the '80s have aged really well. At the time, the flaws -- like lousy editing and fractured storytelling -- tended to dominate most of the film critics' experiences. "-Adam PL

I think you're right in many of your points. In fact, probably all of them. I especially like your point about why the Cannon films received so much contempt. Fact is, they were badly made, but that special charm would be the one redeeming quality that made all of their film output age so much better than the competing contemporary film product. Cannon films from the eighties I collect on DVD and VHS and watch multiple times, I can not say the same for many other films released during the eighties.

The reason Roger Ebert's rating seemed so out of character is because he tended to be far less conservative than his friend and fellow reviewer and it almost seemed like a betrayal by a kindred spirit. At least that was my take on it.









If you love and support Michael Jackson 100%, copy & paste this into your signature. We love MJ!

reply

Completely. I like Ebert's reviews, too, but I decided a long time ago not to get too pissed at him when he tore apart horror movies (particularly slashers) that have a special place in my heart.

You can go to YouTube and watch him and Siskel tear apart movies like "Silent Night, Deadly Night" and "Friday the 13th Part IV." If anything, Siskel is softer on F13 than Ebert, who treats it as though it's a harbinger of the apocalypse, and the worst thing to happen to American youth ... ever.

In their review of "Silent Night, Deadly Night," they list the filmmakers' names as though they're reading a list of Nazi war criminals who are still on the lam.

Bottom line, I don't think either of them "got" slasher movies and they both had really reactionary, knee-jerk reactions to them.

"10 to Midnight" falls into that category (because of the murders of women in it), as did "The Hitcher," mostly for the scene in which the woman is torn apart by the tractor trailer. If that scene hadn't been in the film, Ebert wouldn't have given it zero stars ... I think he said as much in his review, but it's been awhile since I've read it.

http://ocdviewer.wordpress.com

reply

Who wants it from a fat idiot like Ebert anyway? very easy to sit down and just criticise like this pig do.

reply

[deleted]

[deleted]

LOL!! I know. The movie is scummy and a classic. I never forgot this movie.

reply