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How could Garp be mad?(spoilerish)


Ok he gets pissed when he finds out his wife is cheating. But he cheated on her first with the baby sitter. Unless I missed something he got we he deserved.

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He never really cheated with the baby sitter he just flirted with her.

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I dunno, to me the implication was that something happened between Garp and the babysitter (the shot of the car stopped at the side of the road) and when Helen asks him about it he immediately gets defensive, in a way that doesn't really seem sincere.

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he definitely has sex with her
in the book he actually has a habit of sleeping with babysitters, so the whole michael milton thing comes after many mistakes from him

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In the book it seemed that his multiple affairs were purely physical with younger women. It made her single affair seem worse because it was an emotional and physical affair based on her intellectual attraction to her student.

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as they say, two wrongs dont make a right !!!

she caused the girlfriend anguished as well.

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The way I saw it, he regretted it when he slept with the babysitter, because in the immediate following scene he's telling his wife that he doesn't want "strangers to come between them", whereas Helen continued her affair with Michael until she was caught. It became less of "just a sex thing," like it was with Garp and the babysitter, and more about Helen actually liking Michael, which is usually a lot more heartbreaking than a one-night-stand. That is just my pov :)

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that's my pov too! :)

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They tried to make it look like Harp was remorseful for his lust, and that he only cheated on his wife one time, whereas his wife had a continuing physical and emotional affair with one man.

However, the screenwriters didn't achieve this goal. The reasons as to why are numerous. They utterly failed to show the passage of time with his wife's affair, so we get no context in this movie as to how long it goes on for. Nor do we see any evidence that their "relationship," if you can even call it that, gets anywhere close to "serious." Those who argue otherwise are, simply put, wrong; we hear Garp's wife outright say that she told Michael they'd have to break up immediately, should they ever be found out. These sound like the words of someone who's using someone else for sex only, not because they're actually in love with the person. In addition, she only performs fellatio on him as a desperate bid to get the persistent pest out of her hair for good. NOT because she feels any real connection with Michael.

We also see Garp womanizing so often in this movie, that by sheer quantity alone, his sins of impropriety far outweigh hers. In fact, his womanizing is clearly part of the reason why she commits adultery in the first place. He's very obviously cheated on her, and there's an obvious unhappiness pervading the marriage (partially due to his flagrant womanizing). In real life, this often drives others to cheat on their spouses, and it's certainly no different in this fictional situation. And yes, it's bad that she cheated on him. But ultimately, Garp put her through MUCH more emotional stress due to his seemingly-constant womanizing. Yet he has the gall to get angry when he realizes she's giving him just desserts. This makes Garp extremely unlikable, imo, and is a major writing failure.

Ultimately, this screenplay is a poor adaptation and/or reimagining of the novel, and it barely develops several crucial aspects of the story, so I forgive you for not noticing this. And I agree with your point wholeheartedly.

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In the book Garp and Helen had a poly relationship with another writer/professor couple (which lead to his second novel) and he also slept with many babysitters. I think what threatened him about Michael Milton was competition. Michael was seducing Helen with his words. In the book Garp, sensing that he was losing Helen, began writing again to win her affections like he did before they were married.

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