Revisiting TRON


I was 12 when Tron came out in '82. At the time, I remember there was quite a lot of publicity talking about its revolutionary computer generated imagery. Of course, the CGI comprises only a few moments of the entire film, the rest being made up of traditional animation, but it's all blended seamlessly to create this odd cyberworld. Also admirable is Wendy Carlos' futuristic synth score. However, my 12 year old mentality couldn't embrace the film despite its unique look. I simply found it no fun, with characters I could care less about. Revisiting the film 34 years later, I still maintain the film looks fantastic and you can be knocked out in admiration for its production design and special effects, but the story continues to leave me cold despite the fact it is far less confusing since the technobabble used by the characters has now become commonplace. Steve Lisberger--who not only wrote and directed it, but supervised the computer imagery--had a perfect plan for how he wanted Tron to look, but his writing abilities pale in comparison. The battle sequences (such as the Lightcycle contest) are thrilling to watch, but I just don't give a damn about the characters. There is no sense of elation at Tron's triumph at the end and Bruce Boxleitner has no charisma in the role, nor is there the slightest bit of romantic chemistry between Cindy Morgan and Jeff Bridges. The only actor whom I enjoyed was the always reliable David Warner, who lights up any movie he's in. Since he's playing a heavy, this gives Warner an opportunity to slip in a bit of hamminess in such unintentionally hilarious lines like "Bring me the logic probe!" I look at Tron and see a film I can admire for doing things that had never been done before and especially given the limitations of the technology in '82. However, Lisberger's script remains a disaster and I'm rather surprised Disney executives didn't intervene by hiring a professional screenwriter to punch up the script. They must have really trusted Lisberger's vision. I admire Tron far more than Tron: Legacy because the latter is emerging from an era in which sophisticated CGI is now so commonplace that we take it for granted. Tron truly was a pioneering effort. As a side bit of trivia: I believe three different computer effects companies worked on the CGI in Tron, one of which was Triple I, whose work can be seen a full year before Tron in Michael Creighton's Looker--a terrible thriller that nevertheless has some interesting ideas in it. There is an entire breathtaking computer topographic scan of Susan Dey set to Vivaldi's Flute Concerto that probably ranks as the first time these effects had been seen in a movie and deserves its rightful place alongside Tron for usage of groundbreaking CGI.

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For it's time Tron was a masterpiece of combining live action and the emerging digital animation technology. It may have not done well in the box office but I was blown away by the look of the movie when I saw it in the theater. Looking back,it still holds its own against it's contemporaries. Sure the animation technology has advanced incredibly since Tron but considering that they had to create some of the technology to make the film as they made it,this was an unbelievable undertaking.

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I agree with you!

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Essentially, this movie was an exhibition piece, a novelty. Perhaps even a proof of concept. They were relying on the effects and imagery to carry the film. As anyone who has watched enough movies can attest, even the best studios can fall into the trap of "If we make it cool/action-packed/dinosaur-y/Sith-y enough, people will pay to see it."

Also, I think one major problem here was that, in the early '80s, computers weren't part of the popular consciousness, so there was a lot of awkwardness in how to deal with a plot involving such technical issues. On the face of it, most of TRON is utterly absurd (I say this with love, since TRON is easily one of my favorite movies.) You have Flynn interacting with CLU,for instance, as if he's having a conversation with an actual tiny little dude roaming a glowing maze while the cameras are careful not to show what is actually happening on Flynn's computer screen between log-in and final failure. Programs talk like blue-collar workers doing their jobs. Other programs are actively malicious. And so forth. In that context, it seems the screenwriting was so intent on creating this improbable world while dealing with the inherent tensions between a logic-oriented program environment and the messiness of human behavior and emotion that they scarcely had the luxury of developing things like the romance subplot. It's a very odd duck of a movie to begin with, and when they try to create anything approximating character development, it just multiplies the complexities of the screenwriting. A better writer probably could have pulled it off, sure. But it would likely take a better insight into the subject matter to allow that to make it onto the screen. They were trying to create a paradigm that was inherently difficult to convey convincingly, in a movie about technology that few really understood, including studio executives whose approval was necessary for any plot outlays.

Also, and I hate to say this, most of the actors weren't really at the peak of their powers at that point in time. A couple, and I won't name names, were never really all that good. So you may be demanding more depth from them than they could convincingly convey.

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Well said. And agreed on Warner, he's magic.

I feel like they were unsure where to go with the story and somehow defaulted to good guys and bad guys fighting over something. Suddenly the unique setting just became window dressing

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Thanks for an intelligent and well-worded reply!

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I think Tron is a beautiful work of abstract art. I also think it's laughable how back in the day most people didn't get even the most basic computer terms and concepts explored in the film. I always viewed the story as a classic good vs evil plot and nothing more. It's a fantasy film after all.

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Correct

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I was 15 when I it came out and it blew me away. I remember thinking it was boring, but the visuals made quite an impression. Just watching it again now and it's pretty trippy. It's got a Bakshi vibe to it....

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Definitely agree

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The script for Tron is not much worse than that for a lot of big movies from around that time.

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*couldn't* care less about

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I, too, read this years-old post from the now defunct imdb message boards and was inclined to post this in response.

However, you beat me to it by a year.

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I thank you both for pointing out a grammatical error on my part from years ago when IMDB was still active. That being said, I'm really not interested in hearing anything other than opinions pro and con on the subject of TRON.

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It's not technically a grammatical error, since the grammar is correct. I'm not sure how to classify it, actually.

Anyway, totally cool for you to reply as a ghost from imdb past.

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Consider this a haunting. Now let's gently go back to the topic which inspired this thread which was REVISITING TRON, a perfect looking movie that has some regrettably serious flaws.

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Yep 'couldn't care less' and Tron actually did okay at the box office. It wasn't a smash hit but it made money. The Tron video game was probably better than the movie though. lol.

I remember playing the crap out of that game when I was a kid. Then when the movie came out I was first in line to see it. Although, I can't quite remember what came out first, the game or the movie?? usualy the film comes out first but hmmmm.... I really do think the game came out first. but damn that was a long time ago.

Anyhow, I did like both movies, Tron and Tron Legacy.

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I hear you. Yes, the script could have been better, but I don't mind it as much as you do. It's supposed to be a family adventure film, I think, and although I don't think it's quite on-target for that, either, that's where maybe some of the character struggles originate. Lisberger probably found it hard to write high-concept sci-fi for the whole family, and it can be tough to give a character the easy-to-grasp motives that kids can grab onto while simultaneously making them complicated enough for the sophisticated world he was clearly envisioning.

There are a few things about TRON that elevate it for me, and while I don't think of it as a great movie, I think it's a bit better than you're finding it.

1) Of course, the CGI and effects. They hold up today, giving us a unique-looking world. Even though we have better effects now (obviously) these are charming and well-designed. It's always fun exploring the world of TRON.

2) The imagination of the world and the premise. A lot of thought went in to figuring out the computer realm of the film, and it's great to see it operate and to get a feel for digital society. Also, the idea of converting into energy and travelling into a computer is a fun one, and frees up the imagination. So many films miss this mark, but TRON makes you want to play in the world.

3) The "religious-lite" angle. I'm a sucker for some spirituality getting whipped into adventure films, and I was very intrigued by the idea that Bridges would be a god running around in his creation, this avatar, and he would encounter a Holy War between the believers and unbelievers, those yearning for contact with users and those rebelling against the very idea. It's interesting thinking about metaphysics like that. Okay, it doesn't go deep here, but it does touch on some interesting enough ideas for me to springboard into deep realms of thought, and I dig it. It's like Superman. It also bears thinking about our responsibilities towards programs if we're going to be progenitors of AI.

Wrapping up, I can't help but think of The Matrix. It's got some simplistic action movie structures that buoy up excellent, groundbreaking special effects, an imaginative premise (about going into computers), and a bit of a cannonball "dive" into philosophy and religion. The Matrix went way deeper than TRON and is all-around the better film, but I like both for similar reasons.

Or maybe I just still want a laser motorcycle I can keep in a bar for use any time.

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All excellent points.

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'specially 'bout the light-cycle. I still want one of those.

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