rewatched this last night


Hadn't seen it in a few years and forgot just how slow build but expertly paced it is, everything building toward 2 huge ship battles. Fantastic script & pitch perfect totally believable performances from everyone headlined by Shatner and Montalban, SFX still impressive (even some impressive CGI). and lots of R rated violence/horror some which wouldnt be out of place in a 80s Cronenberg scifi chiller or the Alien universe (in fact for years Trek II was rated 15 in the uk on vhs like Blade Runner, T2 etc) of course Horners 'Aliens'esque score 1st used here draws even further comparison. as well as the eerie dark silence of space with the haunting background noises in the spaceship/planet scenes

And the general tone/mood of the movie and a realism in that Trek has never felt completely 'real' (obviously in TOS case) - but here it felt more plausible than other Treks. actually like you're watching something take place 200 years in the future. no bumpy head aliens or time travel or magic evil gods or sinister spaceclouds/probes etc, just advanced astronauts of a naval 'space force' doing battle with an insane genetically engineered 'super-man' from yesteryear, with the fate of the galaxy in the balance due to an entirely plausible superweapon (no doubt inspired by the early concerns of the A-Bomb)

Also works as a direct sequel to TOS far better than TMP (to which it bypasses completely) like heres the TOS crew 15-20y later training the next generation ( Saavik - the new Spock). And noticed that like Trek 2009 it works for people who wouldve never seen Trek before (despite being a direct sequel to an episode) i mean the way it introduces the characters, the various tropes, and equipment: transporters, warp speed, phasers, photons, all the deep science stuff, and vulcan stuff like neck pinch/mind meld, spock/bones banter, kirk flirting with a hot space babe, etc everything 'Trek' seems to get worked in organically and updated at the same time (the only thing was lacking was an end fist fight with ripped shirt Kirk..but he did get to fight his son and pull a couple of classic kirk moves)

one other thing watching the new bluray i alternated between the Theatrical Cut and the Directors Cut and its easy to see why whoever it was wanted those extra scenes gone for theatrical as they dont really fit (i believe Meyer has gone on record saying he prefers the theatrical and the DC is just a gimmick). still those scenes are extra stuff which is interesting to someone so used to watching TWOK theatrical on vhs/dvd over the years

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This is in my top 5 movies of all time, for a lot of the reasons above. The themes it goes through - growing older, legacy, family, sacrifice, revenge - are incredible. The score is bonkers good, IMO on a par with what Williams did with Star Wars. The visual effects were mind-blowing back in the day and still hold up perfectly. The script is tight, and the idea that they circled back to an episode of the TV show was inspired. The cast all crushed it, and I honestly thought it was Shatner's best acting ever. I watch it at least once a year.

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Yep, one of my favorites as well. I think I have this rated as a 9/10 on IMDB?

The horror aspects you bring up are interesting, because I've always felt the EXACT same way about this film. It was the only truly horror vibe from a Star trek, apart from First Contact, which really made the Borg seem quite fearful.

But yeah, the tone and pacing and everything about this particular entry is, dare I say... nearly perfect?

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there was a horror undertone in the original series which had an eerie uncanny vibe like 'The Twilight Zone' as they charting a haunted universe that hid some deeply strange things and long dead civilisations. but it was more of the spooky supernatural feel. where as Wrath of Khan was like the adult version of Trek ..it was full on Cronenberg/Alien madness.. and death..

maybe part of that came from the time it was filmed in 82 when alot of the body horror scifi or just normal sci fi movies then had a similar adult serious 'real world' feel

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