I was watching this movie off of IFC last night and thought the director must have been a big perv (and gained my respect immediatly) with all the female nudity especially the ass shots. We're they making fun of the gratitous nudity in other slashers? just following the horror movie handbook? or are they raging lesbos? These are the things that keep me up at night.
shareyea, makes the film better in my opinion that you find out that women made it! By the way....what channel is IFC???
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Independent Film Channel...plays unedited movies. I get it on Dish Network but I don't think it's very hard to find.
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thanks, ill have to see If I am eligible to order that channel
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Death comes in the worst way, through Satanic wordplay, heres a knife in yo spine!
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You have the caps lock on in every post you make, man.
Also, that guy isn't a "pervert," the symbol is pretty obvious. :-P
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It seems odd at first that this was written by Rita Mae Brown, who has written many lesbian novels. Then you realize that this film is very much a parody of the genre and almost a lesbian soft-core film. You half-expect the girls to start kissing each other. I doubt most viewers would complain.
shareShe wrote a short story about midget men who eat pages of the bible while having sex with conscientous objectors. So cool!
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I think it takes a man to consider this a lesbian soft core porn type of a film.
Women don't typically mix horror and sex without doing so to make fun of men who expect it. As a women who is attracted to women, the gratuitous nudity in horror films doesn't entice me like it entices straight men. I think it takes a sick mind to want to mix death and porn like that, for anything other than satirical reasons.
I believe a film like this is meant to shame men into realizing they are similar to the killer who loves women so much that they want them die for his sexual gratification. Why else does a man say he loved a horror movie because it had female nudity, when he could just watch porn? Because he likes to see women exploited and then made to suffer for being "whores". It's this sick hatred of women, that many male horrors fans share. A lesbian doesn't share that internet, let me tell you. Our only interest is to let those sickos know they are sickos.
I applaud the female writer of this film for trying to get that message out, but too bad it is lost on those who just love any horror film that has a female shower scene.
This is a sick sad world.
'I believe a film like this is meant to shame men into realizing they are similar to the killer who loves women so much that they want them die for his sexual gratification.'
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No, it's not to shame men; the film was to make money/opportunity for the female director. You are one twisted sexist female, assuming you're not joking. The fact that a woman made it for exploitation is hard for to accept
I think you have issues, since you would find a way to make an anti-male remark, regardless of the narrative. Women also enjoyed this film, and they don't share your sexist remark about the purpose being to shame men. You must really hate men , and blame them for your insecurity.
This is in the trivia section for for Rita May Brown on imdb:
"Only wrote the first draft of The Slumber Party Massacre (1982) (originally titled "Sleepless Nights") and was not involved in any of the numerous rewrites. She also had no control over the title change. She wrote the screenplay as a parody of the Teen/Bimbo/Slasher genre, but the producers filmed it straight on."
This is in the trivia section for this movie:
"Rita Mae Brown wrote a screenplay for a parody of teen/slasher flicks and titled it "Sleepless Nights". However, when she submitted it to the producers, they filmed it as if it weren't a parody and retitled it "Slumber Party Massacre". As a result, the movie displays a lot more humor, both intended and unintended, than others of this genre."
It was supposed to be a parody, but instead they screwed up and made it a joke.
Well she also wrote the beethovens, not really the same genre but still, even woman can write... :-p
shareThey were mocking the "male gaze" of hollywood horror films. It was a feminist movie even down to the ending. . .
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When she chopped off the end of his "drill" was taking away his phallic tool of harm against females, and then for the final blow, he jumps on Val, and she has the machete in a very phallic pose, as he is then skewered by the female, in an act of intrusion and intercourse. Brilliant little flick (and great way to get money while saying f--k you to hollywood and male audiences) if not didactic but I guess not too obvious as far as these boards go. . .
There was nothing brilliant about it. Tits tits tits, air-headed conversations, and implausible situations of undress. Even if the picture hadn't suffered castration by the very industry it was intended to parody, there were also equally unsavory undertones at the other end of the spectrum.
Having read the title and watched the first five minutes, it was obvious that murderous drilling was going to be a euphemism -- or what has become accepted as one -- for rape.
The first victim is an engineer, whom the author likely sees surrendering her femininity to a masculine profession. And she is killed off for this? I won't hide my distaste that one of the only positive females in this picture was killed off so flippantly.
Then come the deaths of the poor innocent girls, hunted by this maniac. You, like others, have not even considered the males who also fall victim to his spinning phallus. They are only obstacles, pawns. We see what happens when one of them is handed an aggressive feminine implement -- much like the one used in the finale -- and sent out to fend off the attacker. Even transformed he is useless.
Chopping the drill bit in half is a rage-filled act of chauvanism, that likely mirrors the treatment that turned a child into this monster in the first place. Anyone who has watched this flick can't deny that objectification takes place, but where in mainstream cinema have you seen the sterilisation of women given such favorable treatment? The less radical -- metaphorically -- slices that follow, that loosen his grip on his masculinity, are treated as a throwaway after-thought. In the mind of the author, his drive to conquer has not been uprooted enough and he attacks with renewed vigour, only so we can see him throw himself onto his own sword. The message is clear, even a eunuch with only the semblance of a man should be viewed as a threat.
The real message behind the collision of these two adversaries is lost. Lost in the wild screams of a confused crowd, who only know one thing, that they ought to be angry.
Well put . Will make the next veiwing sll the more fun
shareGood *beep* christ--go read your Carol Cover and relax, or don't watch slashers. No one is forcing you to.
This is a great, fun, smarter than average entry in the eighties slasher boom, thanks largely in part to Rita Mae Brown. The bones of the script are intact and it shows.
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Well said, I am a fan of horror and slasher flicks, and a female! Seen this one a few times.
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It's odd how you make the connections but don't see how it still is satirical of the male horror audience.
When the killer says he kills women because he loves them-- that's like how a male audience says he loves women, and seeing their tits in horror films even though the point of horror is to horrify, not to be just soft core porn with tits tits tits.
(some)Men like to be turned on by "whores" and then they like to see them get punished for being what they want them to be. In a sick sexist world we live in, and the original writer hoped her story would express that and change some males views on what they want out of their horror films. It's true that it got "castrated" by Hollywood, but I can still see the previous points that were meant to be made.
Maybe the general audience doesn't but that's their problem, and I only hope they got it in later satirical horror films like Cabin in The Woods, when they poke the a male audience and say "this is what you want, isn't it? You want her to show her tits right before she dies. You want to be turned on by her death. Her death is your orgasmic moment."
It's supposed to be sickening that the audience wants this.
You are one RABID, man hating feminist, aren't you? Or maybe you're just a pathetic little troll. Or a nice combination. Either way, and here it comes; you're an idiot.
shareFeminist don't hate men sweetheart. It's all about equal rights amongst both genders in all areas of our society. In fact, there are a plethora of men who are feminist themselves. The poster above is stating the obvious and the purpose of the film, which was written and directed by two feminist.
shareYou're completely right. And ignore the poster above, you must've struck a nerve, lol.
shareI'm not going to lie, I was surprised to find that out.
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I think it makes it more interesting, that such a 'male' movie, was made by women.
shareNo. Roger Corman films require nudity so they had no other choice but to put it in there. They go into detail about this on the extras.
sharefunny, his film "The Little Shop of Horrors" didn't have any nudity.
So that seems like an unfair statement. Though there is rarely one producer per film, so I can see how his preference for female nudity can effect some films more than others. And I have only seen a few of his films, and only 2 recently.
But anyways, I'm sure Hollywood producers encouraged the gratuitous nudity because the male horror audience largely wants to see whores bare all and then get punished for doing so. Doesn't matter if the writer of the film wanted to express that sick reality or not, as long as the script has plenty of moments where nudity can be delivered to a twisted yet oblivious male audience.
Little Shop of Horror is a much older film. He didn't require nudity in his productions around this time.
shareI was surprised that it was written by cozy mystery author Rita Mae Brown. I wonder if one of the cats was Sneaky Pie Brown.
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