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"you never moved the bodies !!"


OK granted I love the twist near the end and all -
but from a logic point of view.. how can this development be constructed over a graveyard? isn't there digging involved, foundation work, etc. like nobody saw the coffins

lol?

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Wow, good point. I think I would have freaked out if I was working on that project and I saw that!!!

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For one thing, the houses are likely all done with a slab foundation. We see in the scene where Steve and Mr. Teague are on the hilltop that there is new development going in and it's clear that these are slab foundations which means little digging. 6 inches at the most. After that you're also in an area of the world with no real winters. This means that frost line considerations likely aren't taken. Even if they were there is no place in California where the frost line is over 10 inches. So between these two it's very likely that no one has ever dug over a couple of feet deep.

What the real oddity is that the Freeling's pool is already dug so deep and no one seen the coffins that are under it. We see during the storm sequence that the pool is dug more than 4 or 5 foot deep but no sign of a coffin. Later in the movie bodies and coffins come up from under the dug area. How deep did they bury these people? That's really where they should have found the coffins.

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Another oddity is the fact that when the family is trying to escape the house they are thwarted by caskets that rise up out of the ground vertically. I never understood this. Is this how the dead were buried, or was this just done for dramatic effect? Or does this have to do with supernatural phenomena that defy conventional laws of physics?

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The latter, obviously.

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I posted this hypothesis a few years ago on IMDb, before they took down all their message boards:

The fact that a cemetery was the source of the haunting makes a lot of sense. But like you say, how did the neighbourhood get constructed without anybody encountering a grave site?

When the headstones were removed, the workers must have been told that another company would do the actual exhumation and relocation. They were most likely instructed to catalog the cemetery plots and markers so the second company could match them up later. Of course, we all know there was no second company, but those who removed the headstones did not. Otherwise some of the workers might have questioned the process and word could have leaked out to the police or to the press.

The homes in Cuesta Verde did not have basements. This is a common building practice in southern California (I assume it must be due to the prevalence of earthquakes... ?). But you would think when the city installed the sewer system, at least one buried casket would have been encountered. I wonder if any construction workers ever witnessed strange happenings while on the job.

I am going to suggest there was a lot of shady politics and negotiations between the real estate developer (proven to unscrupulous) and the city government of Cuesta Verde. A large sum of money was probably exchanged under the table to keep things quiet.

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I'm not sure what the relationship between earthquakes and not having a basement is.

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Houses can be knocked off their foundations during earthquakes. If there were a basement below, the structure could fall into the hole. Or basement walls could collapse and bring down the rest of the house with it.
I wrote this post about four years ago, and have since learned that the lack of basements in southern California has to do with frost lines not being a problem, as estcst mentioned above.

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I'm just spitballing, but when I lived in Michigan we had basements in our homes. I lived in a rental that did not have a basement. Here in Eugene, Oregon, most homes don't seem to have basements, although some do. (I saw a homeowner retro fit a basement once.) I would think it would be a little bit more expensive to build a home with a basement, and I think it would add a lot of value to a home.
I don't know how many people personally think about what would happen to their home in an earthquake. Your house will fall apart, basement or no. Civic leaders worry about bridges and schools but I don't know about trying to make every home earthquake resistant.

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Just to add a bit to this conversation about building techniques in southern California:

https://www.latimes.com/home/la-hm-basement-side-20150509-story.html

It seems that it's more a traditional thing than anything else. Mind you, this article was written 33 years after Poltergeist was released, who knows how new these techniques are.

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question is.. any construction site always involves excavation.

for site servicing at least - sewer lines don't go less than 6 feet deep

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