USAF trainees had M14s?


Hi folks,

I'm rewatching the film as More4+1 airs it - Zach Mayo is currently undergoing all those jankers that DI Foley is inflicting on him- and he seems to be drilling with an M14... was that standard USAF issue at the time - or did they get issued with M16s along with other forces?

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Dunno. But the film depicts the US Navy, not the USAF. Just getting that one in before you get a deluge of ex-USN veterans piling in!

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Good point. Easy to forget when typing at speed when tited and sweltering in high humidity...

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It looked to me like an M-1 Garand rifle.

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M14 was effectively a revision of the Garand - the en-bloc clip fed mag changed for a 20-round box mag, selective fire, and the rifle chambered 7.62mm NATO as opposed to 30.06 Springfield.

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The Navy used M-14s in that period; however, he is carrying an M-1 Garand, which was often used for close-order drill in training units. My NROTC unit drill team used Springfields.

"Fortunately, Ah keep mah feathers numbered for just such an emergency!"

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I went through AOCS in 1989. We drilled with M-1 Garands; at graduation we marched with swords. The rifles were basically just another "detail" for which we were responsible. The DI's took every opportunity to expose the rifles to sweat or sand. We had to make sure they were never rusty, and that everything slid smoothly. As punishment for possessing "ge-dunk", or contraband, my DI buried the rifles of two of my fellow candidates, and made us maintain a wakeful watch over their "graves" for 24 hours. Interestingly, the rifles had been rendered safe by having their barrels split.

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M1's are also heavier than an M16, by about 2 lbs, which doesn't sound like a lot until the 3rd or so hour of a road march, or the umpteenth iteration of special PT.

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They have M1's in this movie. I have no idea if that was correct or not for the time.

In Air Force OTS, the only thing I got close to was a .38 Special revolver, but I did earn a ribbon with it. (The Air Force gives you a ribbon instead of a badge). It was a lonely little ribbon for quite a while.



"He was running around like a rooster in a barnyard full of ducks."--Pat Novak

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We used M-1s at AOCS in 1978.

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