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Why is no one talking about this movie?!


I really expected to see a ton of topics on the message boards for this movie, but was surprised to find that evidently no one is interested in The Man From Snowy River...

I'm guessing that the lack of messages is due to the films age... out of sight, out of mind... maybe, but then again there are plenty of old film's that people are talking about online like crazy. Does it have something to do with this being an Australian film? Or, was this even an Aussie movie? I know it was filmed in Australia, but was it produced by an U.S. studio?? I don't know any of the details on it, I just know I love the movie, and I feel like I grew up watching it... Every time I happen to catch it on TV, it reminds me of being a little girl and watching this movie with my family... I was always so impressed with smart, spunky, independent Jessica.

This is a great flick... I wish more people were discussing it on the boards.

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I agree. I have always loved this movie. I, too, have been watching it since I was a little girl. I don't think this was an Australian movie, because of its affiliation with 20th Century Fox, but you never know. I do know that lead actor Tom Burlinson (Jim Craig) was born in Canada but lived in Australia for a while. I think that The Man From Snowy River is one of the best movies of all time. I adore it so much! Have you seen the sequel, Return to Snowy River??? I like it also, but of course not as much as the first.

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I've actually never seen the sequel. That seems kind of weird, I know, since I love the TMFSR so much, but I'm always paranoid that with really good movies like this the sequel will be a real let-down... like they were trying too hard to keep a good think going or something. I need to check it out, though, because I have heard several people say it's pretty good.

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Yeah, you really should. The only thing I do not like about the sequel is that Kirk Douglas didn't return for the movie. That was a let down. But the other actor is okay I guess. Be sure to watch!

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I absolutely loved TMFSR, even after all of these years. I had never heard of it when it might have been in the theaters -what a shame since the big screen would've done it justice! I own it on DVD and still watch it over and over.

But the sequel...there are parts of it that are absolutely wonderful, in particular the Skill at Arms course. In general though, the villains become much, much worse and the plot was not as good -at least in my opinion. And as muddychikk mentions, no Kirk Douglas and he was really great in TMFSR. I'm pretty sure that TMFSR was Australian produced and I'm pretty sure Disney produced the sequel, Return to Snowy River and it kind of shows. Still, it was worth watching but I haven't bought it. I may someday just for the SaA scene.

I don't mean to offend anybody! -Especially not Disney when they put out so many family films. But there's definitely a big difference between the two (at least in my opinion) and I just didn't want abigail to be let down by the sequel to a movie that we both adore.

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this movie is an old fav of mine, and my mums(!) and while i was looking for some info on it for her, i happened upon your convo. the film is infact an Australian production, and was the highest grossing australian film ever released at the time.
it was all set on location, in the snowy mountains of victoria and new south wales in australia. the chase scenes were filmed using real outback stockmen from the stations that surrounded, and if you look at the names in the credits, many members of the same families appear!

i was wondering if you guys are australian or not, and whether you have any prior knowledge of the poem by banjo patterson the film was based on?
oh and one more thing, why is it classified as a 'western'? it is after all, not set in the wild west of America, but the east of Australia. the 'cowboy' is a totally different concept to our 'stockmen' as its a matter of national identity!

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I watched this movie with my husband a couple weeks ago; he'd never seen it before, but he bought it for me because I've mentioned it a few times and told him it's one of my favorites :o) Anyway, I was curious about the poem it's based on, and then I came here and read your post, hewie, and decided to look for the poem online... I found it at this website: http://whitewolf.newcastle.edu.au/words/authors/P/PatersonAB_Banjo/verse/manfromsnowyriver/index.html

The Man from Snowy River
Andrew Barton ‘Banjo’ Paterson

THERE was movement at the station, for the word had passed around
That the colt from old Regret had got away,
And had joined the wild bush horses — he was worth a thousand pound,
So all the cracks had gathered to the fray.
All the tried and noted riders from the stations near and far
Had mustered at the homestead overnight,
For the bushmen love hard riding where the wild bush horses are,
And the stock-horse snuffs the battle with delight.

There was Harrison, who made his pile when Pardon won the cup,
The old man with his hair as white as snow;
But few could ride beside him when his blood was fairly up—
He would go wherever horse and man could go.
And Clancy of the Overflow came down to lend a hand,
No better horseman ever held the reins;
For never horse could throw him while the saddle-girths would stand,
He learnt to ride while droving on the plains.

And one was there, a stripling on a small and weedy beast,
He was something like a racehorse undersized,
With a touch of Timor pony—three parts thoroughbred at least—
And such as are by mountain horsemen prized.
He was hard and tough and wiry—just the sort that won’t say die—
There was courage in his quick impatient tread;
And he bore the badge of gameness in his bright and fiery eye,
And the proud and lofty carriage of his head.

But still so slight and weedy, one would doubt his power to stay,
And the old man said, “That horse will never do
For a long and tiring gallop—lad, you’d better stop away,
Those hills are far too rough for such as you.”
So he waited sad and wistful—only Clancy stood his friend —
“I think we ought to let him come,” he said;
“I warrant he’ll be with us when he’s wanted at the end,
For both his horse and he are mountain bred.

“He hails from Snowy River, up by Kosciusko’s side,
Where the hills are twice as steep and twice as rough,
Where a horse’s hoofs strike firelight from the flint stones every stride,
The man that holds his own is good enough.
And the Snowy River riders on the mountains make their home,
Where the river runs those giant hills between;
I have seen full many horsemen since I first commenced to roam,
But nowhere yet such horsemen have I seen.”

So he went — they found the horses by the big mimosa clump —
They raced away towards the mountain’s brow,
And the old man gave his orders, ‘Boys, go at them from the jump,
No use to try for fancy riding now.
And, Clancy, you must wheel them, try and wheel them to the right.
Ride boldly, lad, and never fear the spills,
For never yet was rider that could keep the mob in sight,
If once they gain the shelter of those hills.’

So Clancy rode to wheel them—he was racing on the wing
Where the best and boldest riders take their place,
And he raced his stock-horse past them, and he made the ranges ring
With the stockwhip, as he met them face to face.
Then they halted for a moment, while he swung the dreaded lash,
But they saw their well-loved mountain full in view,
And they charged beneath the stockwhip with a sharp and sudden dash,
And off into the mountain scrub they flew.

Then fast the horsemen followed, where the gorges deep and black
Resounded to the thunder of their tread,
And the stockwhips woke the echoes, and they fiercely answered back
From cliffs and crags that beetled overhead.
And upward, ever upward, the wild horses held their way,
Where mountain ash and kurrajong grew wide;
And the old man muttered fiercely, “We may bid the mob good day,
No man can hold them down the other side.”

When they reached the mountain’s summit, even Clancy took a pull,
It well might make the boldest hold their breath,
The wild hop scrub grew thickly, and the hidden ground was full
Of wombat holes, and any slip was death.
But the man from Snowy River let the pony have his head,
And he swung his stockwhip round and gave a cheer,
And he raced him down the mountain like a torrent down its bed,
While the others stood and watched in very fear.

He sent the flint stones flying, but the pony kept his feet,
He cleared the fallen timber in his stride,
And the man from Snowy River never shifted in his seat—
It was grand to see that mountain horseman ride.
Through the stringy barks and saplings, on the rough and broken ground,
Down the hillside at a racing pace he went;
And he never drew the bridle till he landed safe and sound,
At the bottom of that terrible descent.

He was right among the horses as they climbed the further hill,
And the watchers on the mountain standing mute,
Saw him ply the stockwhip fiercely, he was right among them still,
As he raced across the clearing in pursuit.
Then they lost him for a moment, where two mountain gullies met
In the ranges, but a final glimpse reveals
On a dim and distant hillside the wild horses racing yet,
With the man from Snowy River at their heels.

And he ran them single-handed till their sides were white with foam.
He followed like a bloodhound on their track,
Till they halted cowed and beaten, then he turned their heads for home,
And alone and unassisted brought them back.
But his hardy mountain pony he could scarcely raise a trot,
He was blood from hip to shoulder from the spur;
But his pluck was still undaunted, and his courage fiery hot,
For never yet was mountain horse a cur.

And down by Kosciusko, where the pine-clad ridges raise
Their torn and rugged battlements on high,
Where the air is clear as crystal, and the white stars fairly blaze
At midnight in the cold and frosty sky,
And where around the Overflow the reedbeds sweep and sway
To the breezes, and the rolling plains are wide,
The man from Snowy River is a household word to-day,
And the stockmen tell the story of his ride.

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its a beautiful poem isnt it? also a favourite of mine!

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Thank you for posting this. I just watched both Snowy River movies last week and had a mental note to look up this poem.

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I can't believe that I didn't know about the poem! I had absolutely no idea that TMFSR was based on a poem, so thanks for the info! That adds another dimension to this movie for me to love - it's origin.

Doesn't this film show some of the most beautiful countryside you have ever seen?? It's breath-taking... and makes me want to visit Australia!! I could watch this movie just to enjoy the scenery.

This is the depiction of Australia that I enjoy seeing... instead of cheesy Crocodile Dundee stuff.

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well i hope you do visit, australia is a beautiful country. i do know that you can actually do a 'man from snowy river' horse riding tour, where the guide takes you on a trail ride featuring locations from the movie. it would be worth your while coming over for that!!

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You could also add another of Patterson's poems "Clancy Of The Overflow" aswell, As it's kind of connected and explains who Clancy was?

Clancy of the Overflow
Andrew Barton ‘Banjo’ Paterson


I Had written him a letter which I had, for want of better
Knowledge, sent to where I met him down the Lachlan, years ago,
He was shearing when I knew him, so I sent the letter to him,
Just on spec, addressed as follows, “Clancy, of The Overflow”.
And an answer came directed in a writing unexpected,
(And I think the same was written with a thumb-nail dipped in tar)
’Twas his shearing mate who wrote it, and verbatim I will quote it:
“Clancy’s gone to Queensland droving, and we don’t know where he are.”

In my wild erratic fancy visions come to me of Clancy
Gone a-droving “down the Cooper” where the Western drovers go;
As the stock are slowly stringing, Clancy rides behind them singing,
For the drover’s life has pleasures that the townsfolk never know.

And the bush hath friends to meet him, and their kindly voices greet him
In the murmur of the breezes and the river on its bars,
And he sees the vision splendid of the sunlit plains extended,
And at night the wond’rous glory of the everlasting stars.

I am sitting in my dingy little office, where a stingy
Ray of sunlight struggles feebly down between the houses tall,
And the foetid air and gritty of the dusty, dirty city
Through the open window floating, spreads its foulness over all.

And in place of lowing cattle, I can hear the fiendish rattle
Of the tramways and the buses making hurry down the street,
And the language uninviting of the gutter children fighting,
Comes fitfully and faintly through the ceaseless tramp of feet.

And the hurrying people daunt me, and their pallid faces haunt me
As they shoulder one another in their rush and nervous haste,
With their eager eyes and greedy, and their stunted forms and weedy,
For townsfolk have no time to grow, they have no time to waste.

And I somehow rather fancy that I’d like to change with Clancy,
Like to take a turn at droving where the seasons come and go,
While he faced the round eternal of the cash-book and the journal—
But I doubt he’d suit the office, Clancy, of The Overflow.

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I am Australian and I love this movie. it is one of the few movies that really do our country justice. I feel proud that Australia produced such a fine movie. It's wonderful. the sequel isn't as good as the first one but still fairly good. but it REALLY missed Kirk.
How many of you people who love it are Australian?

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cintyphantomphan: I'm curious...what do you think of Storm Boy? Does it do your country justice?

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Ooohhh Storm Boy - I haven't thought about that one in AGES. Very famous book too - a lot of my fellow Vegemites would have read that in their early school days.

Snowy River - my boyfriend can't believe it's THAT OLD ("But look at the quality of the recording!") Maybe he wasn't looking at it in the way I was LOL. Lovely lovely film, even if parts of the music soundtrack so show its age, the rest of the film was surprisingly smooth seeing it today after so long. You still hear the theme music about the place. :)

Try Rabbit Proof Fence for a look at Australian history that makes you want to hit someone. V powerful film. And The Castle for some good laughs. A bit like Wogboy (another good one).

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So did you like Storm Boy? My grandmother visited Australia and brought me back the book when I was a kid. I saw the movie on cable recently and really liked it. I just wondered what you Aussies thought of it.

Rabbit Proof Fence was both uplifting and really sad. I think it showed the extremes of the spectrum of the human spirit -very generous and downright evil as well as true courage and cowardice. I enjoyed that movie too.

I'll have to try The Castle and Wogboy. Thank you for the recommendations! I also have Walkabout recorded somewhere but I haven't been able to find it to watch it.

Most of the Aussie films I've seen are a bit quirky: The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert, Welcome to Woop Woop, Strictly Ballroom and The Road Warrior. None of these are anywhere near the category of TMFSR, so I didn't mention them before, though I am curious what you Aussies think of these films as well. Care to share your thoughts? Maybe take them to the appropriate boards?

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I'm American and I love this movie so much. I don't remember when I first saw it, I just remember it always being in the video closet and watching it over and over. I too love the scenery and am amazed by it! It's very rugged and yet lush and attractive. I have always wanted to travel to Australia and enjoy the glimpse that this movie gives me. I felt like TMFSR probably portrayed the Australian country side pretty accurately- at least it just looked so REAL in the movie. I like that there aren't a bunch of special effects and other rigamaroo. It lends a look to the movie that seems to fit with the time and story line. TMFSR taught me a couple of lessons early in life: don't judge someone based on a stereotype, fight for what you are truly passionate about, stand up for yourself, and girls can do cool stuff too. Those are a few that come to mind. For some reason I have several moments in this movie where I simply turn into an emotional mess. The beauty of the horses, the landscape, the loss of a loved one, struggling to overcome obstacles... really there are just too many to list. I'm so glad I came across this site. No one I know(besides my sisters) know about this movie. I'm glad other people are as big as a goofball as me. Also, thanks for the poem. I wasn't aware of it and am really glad I was able to read it tonight. Thanks! Jim Craig, you're my hero.

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I did notice the names of the riders and how they must have been a few bunches of brothers or cousins.

I'm not Australian but American, though I'm originally from southern California where we have lots of gum trees. I've been fascinated with Australia since I read about it when I was 7 years old and since I've never had the chance to go there, I've read books and seen movies set in Australia. I didn't have prior knowledge of the poem but knew it existed because of the credits for TMFSR and it was also mentioned in The Thorn Birds -the book.

I'm guessing that it's classified as a 'western' because it has to do with riding horses to round up cattle and goldmining and no other reason. To me it also doesn't seem appropriate since a lot of 'western' movies have to do with gunfights and frontier justice. I'm pretty sure that you can find it in the 'Family' section in video stores, which seems a more fitting classification to me.

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The term 'western' can mean two things: either the setting (the US Wild West) or the attitudes, situations, adventure, and feeling of a movie (going up against all odds, with nothing but guts). That would pretty much describe this wonderful Australian film, and it's wonderful sequel!

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What I hold against the sequel is it is totally Disney trying to make up some sappy happy ending and not letting great art stand on its own two feet without the aforementioned ending.

At the end of TMFSR you know that Jim will come back for "whatever else is [his]". You just know. And all will work out. Doesn't matter how. It will.

But in the sequel, they play it up and re-use plot devices and make it all sappy. Oh, and they name Jim's horse Denny...I don't know why, but that really annoys me. He goes through the entire first movie and you never get a name, why'd you need one then? Good enough to fulfill the needs of sappy females for the last kiss, but really...

And as another poster mentioned, without Kirk Douglas it struggles. He couldn't be in it because he'd had his stroke, so they replaced him with another actor as the father and cut out Spur entirely. Kinda changes one of the major points of the first movie - mountain v. lowland as seen in Spur v. Harrison.

Anyway...if you're happy with The Man from Snowy River, don't waste your time on the sequel unless you just need a little sap or a good look at Jim Craig.

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Ah, but another look at Jim Craig...(sigh)! Tom Burlinson is soooo dreamy!

That aside, didn't you at least like the Skill at Arms segment? I agree with what you said about the rest, but I just absolutely loved that scene.

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QUOTE MAIDCAROLYN"Oh, and they name Jim's horse Denny...I don't know why, but that really annoys me. He goes through the entire first movie and you never get a name, why'd you need one then?"

The reason they called him Denny in the movie is because that was the real horses name. Denny was owned by the Lovick family - they taught Tom to ride, and provoded all the horses for the Snowy films, they also appeared in the film as the crack riders and mountain men.

QUOTE MAIDCAROLYN "He couldn't be in it because he'd had his stroke, so they replaced him with another actor as the father and cut out Spur entirely"

Wrong actually. Kirk wanted no part in the sequel and so he wasnt asked to return to Australia to film it. The sequel was filmed in 1987 and released in 1988. Kirk had his stroke 8 years later in 1995 so as you can see it bore no relationship with his choice to not be in the film.

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The sequel is bad; don't bother; disney injected magic and ruined the whole affect and drama; believe me, i saw it and wish I hadn't.

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It's totally an Australian film. It may have been distributed by 20th Century Fox, but that is just the distributor. Everyone involved in the making of that was Australian except for Kirk Douglas. One of the horsemen was American born. Very well known in Australia and died in more recent times. Gus Mercurio. Here is his link: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0580517/

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jUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION IF YOU ENJOYED THIS FILM AND THE SUBSEQUENT POEM THAT IT WAS BASED ON TRY READING OTHER POEMS BY BANJO PATERSON INCLUDING CLANCY OF THE OVERFLOW WHO WAS ACTUALLY A CHARACTER IN THE MOVIE PLAYED BY JACK THOMPSON IF MEMORY SERVES CORRECTLY.
ALSO CHECK OUT OTHER FINE QUALITY AUSTRALIAN MADE MOVIES LIKE THE LIGHTHORSEMEN,
ANZACS.THE WOGBOY IS VERY FUNNY IF YOU CAN UNDERSTAND AUSSIE HUMOUR SO IS THE CASTLE.

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Go to the following to see a story written on A. B. Paterson in National Geographic in Aug 2004.

http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0408/feature1/index.html?fs=www7.nationalgeographic.com

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Just watched the sequel on Hallmark after not having seen it in years --it's not bad as sequel's go, but it lacks the drama of the original & the original cast members who DID return aren't as strong as they were before. But I have to like it if only for:

"Broaden your mind. Have another beer. Have Two."

That is one of the best inside-joke lines I am in possession of... and can be manipulated for any situation to confuse people...

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I actually prefer the sequel over the original. It holds my attention more, doesn't seem to be as dragged out. The first one was charming, but sometimes it moved too slow. I also think (this is my opinion only) but the action sequences were caught better in the second. The cliff jumping scene, the race, skill at arms, the taming of the wild stallion, the fight at the end, I just found more exhilerating and heart pounding than the original. The only thing I did miss was Kirk Douglas, but that was it, other than that, The Return to Snowy River remains my favorite "horse" movie to this day. The horse whisperer cannot even begin to touch it!

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Just caught The Man From Snowy River on cable this afternoon. I LOVE this movie. I remember watching it as a kid on HBO in the 80's. it's such a wonderful movie.

My Dad took me to see the second film in the theatre when it came out. I was disappointed by it. I don't think I'll ever see the second one again. The first is the best to me. I'll leave it at that and keep dreaming of Jim Craig.

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Just as an aside - particularly for anyone who does get to visit - or try to! The 'home town' of The Man From Snowy River is generally regarded as a little place in north east Victoria called Corryong - this is the Victorian gateway to the Snowy Mountains. The grave of - purportedly - the REAL MFSR, Jack Riley, is in Corryong.

The film was made in the Victorian High Country near Mansfield which is actually about 150 km away (in a straight line, or 300 km to drive because you have to go around the Alpine National Park. It is beautiful country.

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I'm an Aussie, and fan of both film and poem (Eng lit student!). The movie does a lovely job of weaving a story around the poem in paying hommage while fleshing out characters and plot. Tom now spends most of his time singing! - he does a startling Frank Sinatra impersonation which has prompted lots of tribute-style concert work, and played the Matthew Broderick role from The Producers on stage here (very appealingly too.) Sigrid is unsettling skinny and very botoxy - and no-one else seems to see the irony of her currently hosting a local lifestyle show about healthy living... :-(

I find the sequel weak and haven't bothered with it for years. Currently directing a primary school musical based on the poem, and was pleased to introduce a whole new generation of viewers to the original film - it stands up well, really brought the poem to life, and the kids really loved it.

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The only people I know who like this movie are women lol most men hate it. But then again it's like that a lot with romance / chick flicks. I thought this movie was really boring, I was forced to watch it though.

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