Ok, this is very easily a two sided debate for any Police Officers but what did you think of Teasle's actions toward Rambo in the film?
We're lead to believe/assume Teasle knows Rambo is a Vietnam Veteran based on the uniform Jacket he's wearing but what about the prejudice shown on the part of Teasle?
How would you act in this given situation and or is there more to it in your opinion? interested to know.
He didn't want bums in his town, nor people who don't respect the rule of law. So he was right in trying to get him out of there.
shareThat's hypocrisy. Teasle didn't respect the rule of law at all. He criticized Rambo and told him to leave, which he had no legal cause to do. Teasle disrespected the law.
share99% of Cops know the difference between a tramp and a bum. A bum is looking for handouts and really doesn't care about himself or others. A tramp is living a transient life and will accept either handouts or work. Many tramps travel til they're out of money, then stay in flophouses and work until they build up a poke, then hit the road again. Rambo is clearly a tramp and would be accorded a measure of respect by the vast majority of LEOs. Most, not all. Some LEOs respect nobody and are the ones deserving of the scorn they get.
I'll share an encounter between a tramp and a Missouri county sheriff I witnessed in 1984, a couple of years after the release of First Blood. The sheriff was alerted one evening by the sheriff's office of the county just to the east about a transient they'd given a lift to the county line, headed into his county now. The sheriff was having a slow night, as usual, so he went to the county line and offered the transient a lift. Yes, he was scoping him out. He made clear to the guy that he was not ordering him to accept the ride, but if he'd like a lift, he could get him to town. The sheriff did not request ID or search him or even ask him his name. The guy accepted the ride (I was along as a civilian) and as we rode back into town we all chatted in friendly fashion. The guy was in his mid-20's and was just traveling the country as a lark for about 2 years. As we approached town the sheriff asked him if he had money to eat on, if he didn't, he'd buy him supper, whatever he wanted. The guy accepted the offer of supper at a local cafe' (it happened to be operated by my aunt), which was provided out of the sheriff's own pocket, not county funds.
During the meal which we all shared sitting together at a table, the sheriff asked him if he would like to stay overnight. The motel could put him up, but it would cost about $20. If he didn't have money, he could let him sleep on the sofa in his outer office. The tramp declined, saying he'd just keep going west. The sheriff offered to give him a lift to the west county line, which the tramp accepted. As we rode west, the sheriff contacted the next county over and said he was dropping a traveling man off at the county line.
End of event as I witnessed it. I'm pretty sure somebody from the next county over met the guy and offered him the same things. There was absolutely no heavy handedness on the part of any LEO in this situation. However, if the guy had been troublesome or out of whack, I'm pretty certain he'd have been dealt with lawfully but with respect.
So in my view, having seen what's possible and probably likely, Teasle was way out of line from the very beginning and the movie flows rather logically as a result. I'd have been pissed off about the treatment, too, if I was Rambo.
That was very nice what the Sheriff did for that guy. Most people (civilians or otherwise) probably wouldn't do that. Not bc they are jerks but bc of fear of their safety
In the film, Tease acted like a d!ck from the get go. Should he have offered to buy Rambo dinner and pay for him to stay in a hotel?? No... not unless he wanted to.
But there was NO reason for Teasle to insult Rambo right off the bat then tell him he couldn't eat in town and then drive him to the city limits just to get rid of him.
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So, in other words, just SLIGHTLY different than what happens in "First Blood." ;-)
shareWe're lead to believe/assume Teasle knows Rambo is a Vietnam Veteran based on the uniform Jacket he's wearing but what about the prejudice shown on the part of Teasle?
Is very bad to steal Jobu's rum. Is very bad.share
Rambo should have told Teasle the truth...that he went to visit an old friend and learned he had died. Not that he wasn't doing anything there...had he told the sheriff he had business in town the sheriff wouldnt have been so hard on him. I don't blame Him for helping rambo move out of town...he doesn't want a drifter jn the town, he could rob houses or rape a woman..who knows... it's fkd up that h3s like that, but he tells rambo.up front what the deal.is...I feel they were both wrong though
shareThat copper had to right to stop a pedestrian that was walking thru his stupid town! Being a tough guy got it all blown up; and for what? To stop a war veteran from getting something to eat!
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Officers today would not do what Teasle did no matter how small or big community is.
Being homeless or a drifter is not illegal either though, some guys could have been fired or laid off from a job and not able to find work or employment, then the rent at their house or apartment is due and they dont have enough money to pay for it, they get kicked out and become homeless, begging or wandering around on the street, frequently they will travel to other towns and cities because there might be work there or better circumstances, a person in such a situation would not be a criminal but just a down his luck homeless bum or drifter.
So Teasle was wrong, Rambo was not doing anything wrong, Rambos best bet would have been to go to the next town and report Teasle to the state police and file a complaint against him and his police department for forcing Rambo to leave town, Vagrancy is actually a financial problem and state, not a criminal offense, homeless people are not all drug addicts, most are just people that have been fired and evicted from their homes.
You couldnt tell if Rambo was a veteran based on his appearance, a lot of ex military people grow their hair out and look sloppy, look at bikers, a lot of them are scruffy looking and have long hair and have been in the Army and Marines in their youth, Rambo could have told Teasle that he was ex Army but he probably didnt want to discuss his past with anyone, so he doesnt bring it up, a homeless guy isnt going to have the time or money to shave and maintain a short haircut, so he has long hair and smells bad, Teasle was an idiot for bringing that up to an obvious homeless guy.
I read the book before the movie came out. It's quite a bit different in spots but similar overall. I know longer have the book.
I can't recall the initial Teasle-Rambo interaction from the book, but I'm thinking it was similar.
In the book it all takes place in Kentucky.
Both the book and the movie are good. Many more body bags in the book though.
I can't recall the initial Teasle-Rambo interaction from the book, but I'm thinking it was similar.
"Being homeless or a drifter is not illegal either though"
whats this 'vagrancy' thing then?
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