Why all the hate and why such a low score?

Before I type up this post, know that I'm a HUGE fan of Firefox. I think it's an amazing film of the espionage/cold war/suspense genre. I'm not gaga over the final act with the flying scenes, but it's overlookable-enough considering the rest of the film is a 10.

But Firefox has two things going against it.

First, like I just mentioned, the flying scenes. The special effects are quite bad, and some critics think that even in '82 they were hardly top of the line. Add into the fact that the film was advertised at the time of it's release with the plane being the main focus. So when it turned out to be only the last 45 minutes with the plane and hour and a half of "boring" stuff leading up to it, that probably annoyed a lot of people.

Which brings us to the second reason why this film is hated; "it's boring". I don't agree with this camp personally, but it's slow paced lead-up to the theft of the plane can realy turn off the mass audience. It's a style that the great spy films have, but because it's not a marketable trait for a major studio film to have, they don't come around too often. I personally scoff when films like the Bourne series, the Mission Impossible series (well, at least the sequels), and even some of the recent James Bond movies are labeled as "spy movies". Though I DO like some of the films from thhose series (I have quite a taste for Bond for it's own strengths), the majority of what modern audiences label as "spy" films are really just hyper-kinetic action flicks. There's nothing wrong with that, like I said I enjoy a lot of those kinds of movies when they are well made, but when I think "spy movie", I picture middle-aged Clint walking down the streets of Moscow at night being followed by the KGB. I DO NOT picture Jeremy Renner jumping off rooftops kicking random hench-men butt.

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Yeah, that's another thing I love about this movie. There has never enough films showing the soviet union as up close as this, not limiting itself to the "bad guys". The recent trilogy of novels written by Tom Rob Smith, Child 44, The Secret Speech, and Agent 6 are great novels that take place in the USSR throughout the cold war. There's so much more to the country and it's people than the high ranking evil officials that we typically see in Hollywood films.

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I sometimes wonder if some of the people who hate this movie are bothered by the very negative portrayal of the Soviet Union. Could they be thinking "how dare you portray them as ruthless totalitarian thugs? Don't you know this is an era of peaceful coexistence?"

I watched this film for the first time today. I read some of the reviews, saying it was as bad as 'The Eiger Sanction', which I hated. Surprisingly, I enjoyed it, particularly the stuff wth Clint and Warren Clarke. We're not talking about a great movie here, but I would maybe vote it a 6 or 7 out of 10. The score is reasonably accurate, but perhaps a bit harsh.

We're all in it together.

So you compare movies that came out in the future? That's like saying The Birds suck because the CGI in Sharknado is sooo advanced. F--k remakes. It's just an uneven movie. Find a new original script and move on. Enough with the damn cultural navel gazing already.

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"his great work since the 90's"

You regard The Rookie, Absolute Power, True Crime, Space Cowboy,s and Blood Work has great work?

Watching it now for the first time in a while. The music, as he takes off in the plane, I find particularly cheesy.
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OMG people talk...how boring. It's called exposition. Most spy movies have that.

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