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Only Penn and Reinhold's arcs were entertaining. The rest of the movie is bleak and a downer.
Easy to forget how much of the movie is blah.

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I feel bad for Gen Z.

They don't have a high school film.

There hasn't been a major one made for over ten years.

Juno (2007) and Superbad (2008) were the last.

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Whoa, good observation. I hadn't considered this. Is it the fault of cellphones?

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Good question on why HS films are out.

My guess- kids love Superhero films more, the movie Hunger Games really killed it. That is where the money is.

And/Or

A movie studio showing sexuality of 'technically' underage high school kids has become legally problematic and taboo in today's society.

And you make a good point...how do you come up with a good movie when a kids social interaction mostly comes by texting?

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The taboo barrier is somehow larger and smaller at the same time in our current era. Probably an accurate call though.

I think the last few Spiderman movies could maaaybe qualify as HS movies (though I didn't see the 2nd one) but they are in the guise of standard superhero films. No one went to see them because they were HS movies.

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Fast Times has always stood out to me as way more honest than most high school movies--especially since high school has its fair share of downer moments.

As for Gen Z, there's a movie called Eighth Grade (2018) that's set in middle-school, but right on the cusp of high school. Fun movie with a great performance by Elsie Fisher.

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That movie with Jennifer love Hewitt and seth green is a decent new age highschool movie.

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Ah, yes. Can't Hardly Wait (1998). You're right, that was decent. Also, fantastic Replacements' song.

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Teen films were usually very politically incorrect and in a way truthful and desperate. I don't think you could make a film like that anymore. It would have to show everyone as being a victim of some sort of phobia and only the white guys could be portrayed as having flaws etc.

The females would be the ones who get to rise up and overcome everything. It would be a very miserable film.

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High School Musical killed the genre

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A high school movie of 2020-21 would just consist of scenes of teenagers lying in their beds texting and posting on social media, playing video games and attending remote learning classes.

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and a lot of protest rallies. Gone are the days of the 3 R's, replaced with Advocating 101

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I didnt see it that way.

The film did have some interesting social commentary.
Slap stick could be found anywhere.

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Who said anything about slap stick?

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Kinda like real life and that's why I prefer it to 80s fantasy bullshit like John Hughes' movies.

It's an interesting irony too because FTARH was written by Cameron Crowe who writes a lot of happy-go-lucky prose in his scripts, but at least with his youth movies he shows teens as both vulnerable and cocky. Hughes just relies on tropes and resorts to cop out resolutions like Jake the jock falling for Molly Ringwald or her Pretty in Pink character falling for the obvious choice.

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I enjoy both movies. FTARH is the more realistic one.

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I was disappointed with this movie because I was expecting a Sean Penn star vehicle that would do for him what Risky Business did for Tom Cruise.

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