I decided i'd watch this movie for the first time today, but when I was searching through the top 250 list it wasn't there. Seemed to be at a stable spot around 200 before, but now all the sudden its completely off. Did a ton of people decide to give it a bad rating, or what?
Also first post here, hello everybody.
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Very true. Here's a bunch more that were knocked out.
The Best Years of Our Lives (1946)
Throne of Blood (1957)
La Grande Illusion (1937)
Les Diaboliques (1955)
Sherlock Jr. (1924)
The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928)
Tokyo Story (1953)
Fanny and Alexander (1982)
Come and See (1985)
The Battle of Algiers (1966)
Judgment at Nuremberg (1961)
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans (1927)
Ikiru (1952)
The Wages of Fear (1953)
Seppuku (1962)
If you haven't done so already, cast your vote and spread the word to get these deserving films back in the top 250!
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Because everyone has to put "Skyfall" or "The Dark Knight" in the Top 250. That's why.
shareI don't mind "The Dark Knight" or "Skyfall" being on there, but "The Hobbit" or "The Avengers" being there instead of "Tokyo Story" or "Fanny and Alexander" makes me sick to my stomach. Too many casual movie fans and not enough serious ones on this site. I guess it has always be a haven for fanboys, but it has gotten ridiculous.
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"In the future, all top-250 films will have action figures."
I consider myself lucky to have discovered and completed the 250 before they made this change. I never would`ve discovered many of my favourite movies today without it.
Now, here is the list of movies knocked out and the ones which replaced them on July 19th last year: (From the brilliant Top 250 History page, www.took.nl/250/)
Out:
Ikiru
The Wages of Fear
The Kid
Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans
Les Diaboliques
Seppuku
The Best Years of Our Lives
Judgment at Nuremberg
The Battle of Algiers
Sherlock Jr.
The Passion of Joan of Arc
Fanny och Alexander
Kind Hearts and Coronets
Nights of Cabiria
High and Low (Tengoku to jigoku)
Tokyo Story
Come and See
Anatomy of a Murder
Throne of Blood
Festen
Le Samourai
Grand Illusion
Memories of Murder
Thankfully, some of these have now reached the vote limit and reentered, but many are far from the spotlight the list is.
In:
Harvey
Bringing Up Baby
Fistful of Dollars
Shadow of a Doubt
In the Name of the Father
Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter... and Spring
La Dolce Vita
Rain Man
La Haine
Big Fish
In the Heat of the Night
The Searchers
Rio Bravo
Ed Wood
King Kong
Arsenic and Old Lace
The Nightmare Before Christmas
His Girl Friday
Patton
The Philadelphia Story
In the Mood for Love
The Untouchables
Papillon
Edward Scissorhands
This has also changed quite a bit since then, but that is because of lowered rating, and not the limit. However, the formula for calculating the list makes it tougher for films to enter the closer to the limit they are, which is a lot closer for many movies when the limit is 25000 and not 3000.
It seems The Hobbit and The Avengers would be on the Top 250 with both limits.
On the other hand, why should it matter that a few timeless masterpieces are not listed on a completely irrelevant movie list?
This movie won 20 awards, including several Oscars and even that really doesn't matter in the big scheme of things. What matters is whether you enjoyed it or not.
For every lie I unlearn I learn something new - Ani Difranco
It was at #230 before being taken off. Now it's back on at #212.
shareIt's Back!!!!
Please vote into Top 250:
imdb.com/title/tt0046911
250 votes to go..
the most bad movie of imdb is diabolique,nothing is horror,very simple mystery,why you people like that
shareI almost threw away my laptop during the bathtub scene... so.. I found it scary as *beep*
Best of 2014:
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Diabolique was a tad slow... but there are more unworthy films on the list than Diabolique. Start with the superhero *beep*
sharebecause the top 250 is worthless
shareIt's beyond me how people still care or/and complained about the top 250. Unless you're an uber Nolan fan, then this list isn't for you. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Nolan fan myself (hell, he's in my top 50), but one look at the list, it's *beep* obvious the list is biased towards him. People started rating Interstellar 10s before they even saw it.
It also baffles me how a bad movie like The Help is even on the list. Even some films from the bottom 100 are better than that and The Help isn't even on the TSPDT century list, let alone the top 1000.
DR. DOAK BITCH!
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Dude Fanny and Alexander deserved it. This movie is so overlong and dull, might as well put Insomnia or Following in there
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#217 now it's slowly making it's way off the list
shareWhat do you expect from a mob that insists that The Shawshank Redemption is the greatest movie of all time?
CB
Good Times, Noodle Salad
I have little or no confidence that the IMDB ratings are done particularly well. I sincerely doubt that Shawshank would be #1 if they were done correctly.
Each vote for a movie needs to be adjusted for how easy or tough the individual voter is. Voters who see a lot of films, especially classic films, tend to be tougher than less experienced voters. (The math on this is tricky; it needs to be done with multiple iterations.)
Each vote for a film ought to be adjusted by how experienced the voter is, too. I believe that they have some crude algorithms that do this. "Top 1000" voters get more weight -- which has caused some of them to rate thousands of films (usually as a 1) they obviously haven't seen. The correct way to do this is to measure how much voting more causes your voting pattern to correlate with everyone else's, and then use that to determine a sliding-scale weight.
You can even argue that votes should be weighted by how much they agree with everyone else. Let's say you and I have each voted for 1000 films, and your votes pretty much correspond to the consensus, but mine bear no relationship at all to it. If you give a high score to a film that otherwise is low, or vice versa, isn't that really meaningful? As in, here's a dissenting opinion from someone who is usually on the same wavelength as others. Whereas, if I do it, isn't it actually meaningless? If none of my votes follow any pattern compared to everyone else, who cares about one more?
(How to count the votes of people who are opposite the consensus is a real can of worms. Haven't formed an opinion on that yet.)
They have to do a much better job of identifying bogus 1 and 10 votes from people who like or hate a movie's message. This is easy to do, because the 2 through 9 votes can be used to predict the likely number of 1 and 10 votes, and because these votes tend to show up disproportionately early in a movie's release. They claim to do this, but they're obviously very painfully bad at it.
Prepare your minds for a new scale of physical, scientific values, gentlemen.share
Excellent insight into workings of the idiocracy.
CB
Good Times, Noodle Salad
Each vote for a movie needs to be adjusted for how easy or tough the individual voter is. Voters who see a lot of films, especially classic films, tend to be tougher than less experienced voters. (The math on this is tricky; it needs to be done with multiple iterations.)
'What do you expect from a mob that insists that The Shawshank Redemption is the greatest movie of all time? '
That is a puzzle.
It's that man again!!
I know this has been said before, but it just annoys me to see the endless debates about what is the best film ever? What are the top ten ten films ever made?
Why isn't Moonraker higher than Superman IV? So as I have nothing better to do, here is my take:
I couldn't even begin to think about the best film ever.
Is Casablanca better than Blade Runner?
Which is better, Godfather 1 or 2? And are they better than Blade Runner or Casablanca?
I like the Shawshank Redemption a lot, but what about Rosemary's Baby?
Damn, I forgot Bande Apart, but maybe Les Quatre cent coups. Ah, shoot - Belle de Jour.
Alien? The Third Man? Schindlers list? Jaws? Fanny and Alexander?
OK, I'll stop now, but this list could go on, and on.......
As for a top ten... not a chance there either.
I could choose ten great films, but then choose another ten that are equally as good.
Then another ten, and another...
Top 250...Well, just maybe
Top 500 is more realistic, and I could probably live with that.
We don't need lists. We need lots more great films to watch, enjoy, discuss, critique and watch again - and over and over again.
What's my favourite film? I don't know, it hasn't been made yet!
(I forget where that quote comes from - maybe someone can remind me).
There can be no true beauty without decay.
I see that noone has answered this yet, So here goes.
Sometime in 2012 IMDB has decided that it should raise the minimum amount of votes required for a movie to be selected to IMDB top 250 to 25.000 votes. As a result a bunch of highly rated but lesser known classics got kicked out of Tip 250 simply for not having enough votes. This movie was one of these. As vote numbers grew this movie passed the 25.000 votes number and got back to Top 250 in rather short order.
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