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Can anyone give some answers on this Movie? (Spoilers)


I just hired this on DVD after many years of wanting to see it, I have seen most of Nic Roeg's movies.

However I found this one pretty tricky to understand, can anyone point me in the right direction on these following unexplained points to the movie?

~ Was the owner of the whorehouse a witch of some kind and did she make Jack find the gold?

~ What was the fight over with the other prospector right at the beginning?

~ Who killed Jack (Hackman) was it the Son-in-Law or everyone had a part, as the assailant was kinda hidden, and the white sleeve did look like that of Hauer's?

~ Did Hauer become Jack in the end?, kinda reborn via the voodoo and other powers of the stone?

~ Who were the two girls that Hauer took to the voodoo party?, they seemed to come from a HMS naval base of some kind?

~ The Mafia wanted the island as a casino; did they really think Hackman would just give this over?

I think all and all the phrase Hackman uses "I used to have it all, Now I have everything" basically sums up the movie that riches don't make you happy and can cause misery, and finding your way there is sometimes more exciting than achieving it cos the drive is gone.

Great locations, and story anyhow...

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As "Eureka" is one of my favourites, I'll try to answer your questions as best I can.......

-Was the owner of the whorehouse a witch of some kind and did she make Jack find the gold?

She wasn't a witch. Frida was a madam strongly connected to nature and very intuitive. She knew both Jack's destiny and her own. Like the other women in Jack's life, she has dark hair which is significant in her connection to Jack.

~ What was the fight over with the other prospector right at the beginning?

From a narrative viewpoint, it was to illustrate Jack's independence and determination not to be helped or partnered by anybody (cf. the line "I don't need any partners"- which was also a reference to Roeg's former directing partner Donald Cammell). They were fighting because the other prospector wanted a share of the gold.

~ Who killed Jack (Hackman) was it the Son-in-Law or everyone had a part, as the assailant was kinda hidden, and the white sleeve did look like that of Hauer's?

The film is based on the true story of Sir Harry Oakes. It was an unsolved murder and Oakes' son-in-law was tried and aquitted. One of the main points is that the identity of the murderer is irrelevant- Jack "needed somebody to finish him off and he found him, just as he found the gold".

~ Did Hauer become Jack in the end?, kinda reborn via the voodoo and other powers of the stone?

No. Jack says to Claude "You want me. You want my soul" but Claude can never get it. He leaves Tracy partly because she humiliated him in court with the truth and partly because he can never have Jack's soul. The film shows Jack as the victor at the end- he gets what he wants (Helen gives up drinking, the mob leaves the island alone, Claude leaves)

~ Who were the two girls that Hauer took to the voodoo party?, they seemed to come from a HMS naval base of some kind?

They were party girls and just used to illustrate Claude as a philanderer.

~ The Mafia wanted the island as a casino; did they really think Hackman would just give this over?

No. They knew that Jack was a "dinosaur" and would have to be forcefully removed. They are everpresent- they were the wolves that surrounded Jack at the beginning.

Hope this clarifies some points. It's such an amazing movie- one of Roeg's very best.

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Wilderfan

Thanks for your excellent answers to the movie, you pretty much answered it all, I will watch it again in the future and understand it a lot clearer.

Really great movie, would love to know the locations in more detail.

Cheers

BlackiceUK

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blackiceuk,

No worries. Can't really help with the locations, though. Apologies.

Enjoy the film again!

wilderfanAUS

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I was also curious about locations some time ago, but have been unable to find much apart from what is readily available.

But I found this one snippet -
The mining community of Kirkland Lake ,Ontario. [The town produces one-fifth of Canada's gold and the main street, Government Road, is actually paved with gold as the construction crew used the wrong pile of rocks, gold ore instead of waste rock.] This is where Sir Harry Oakes found the gold which made him a rich man. I assume this is the town that appears early in the film.

And then you will know these, about which I can find no further details.
British Columbia, 400 miles north of Vancouver in the Canadian Rockies. [Ten foot snow drifts and forty degrees below zero.]

Jamaica
Miami
and not forgetting Elstree and Twickenham Studios in England.

They certainly moved around a bit !


"Nothing is certain till it's certain".

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Also my thanks for the superb clarifications of several questions I also had. Since I have a severe hearing impairment,even with closed captions, I miss a lot of dialog.

Your taking the time to respond to the questions posed is most appreciated.

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Much as I love this movie, the courtroom scene does cause problems. Much of this is to do with Theresa Russell's hysterical performance, which wasn't entirely her fault- she was told to follow the script verbatim. The main point is that Tracy is a soul clone of her father (despite their surface differences). She emasculates her husband with the truth- "they despise you because you have me and I'm worth having. They despise me because I'm Jack's daughter and I have too much. And of course they still despise Jack because he found what they're all still looking for. I found you but you haven't found what you're looking for. You're time will come. But it's not yet". At that point, the relationship is doomed.

The final scenes show Jack (in dying) getting what he wanted- Tracy and Claude split up, the mobsters leave the island alone (cf. "They're going to have to be some changes") and Helen says "I don't drink anymore". The final scene is one of the most beautiful, heartbreaking moments in the history of film as Tracy watches her husband leave her, knowing that he could never reach the depth of understanding that would be needed to make the relationship work.

Does that answer your questions?

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Why does Claude leave? Everything seemed to be on a path to healing in their final conversation,at least as I remember it.

What do you think his final line (to the mirror) "I always knew it would be you" mean? Your dismissal of the question of Claude becoming Jack also puzzles me. Freda tells him he's been there many times before, and he'll come again - yet he clearly doesn't know her. She regales him with tales from their shared past. Is she referring to him merely as an archetype? Or is there a circular pattern to events? Scene one shows Jack cutting all ties and disappearing into the unknown. The last shot is of Claude doing exactly the same.

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.






"If I have any genius it is a genius for living" - Errol Flynn

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It's been a while since I've been on this board and seen the film, but here goes-

Roeg stated in an interview that few relationships could stand the amount of truth that Tracy subjects Claude to in the courtroom scene. The conversation you refer to is a heartbreaker because both of the character's supposedly healing words mean actually very little- they both know that the relationship is doomed (it's something that I think is quite true to life- people avoiding confrontation).

The "I knew it would be you" line is also Jack's final words, which implies that Claude was there at the moment of Jack's death. I don't think it has anything to do with Claude "becoming" Jack. It's interesting that you point out that both Jack and Claude cut all ties before disappearing into the unknown (I hadn't thought of that). The ending is classic Roeg- a man or woman adrift (cf. Performance, Walkabout, Don't Look Now, The Man Who Fell to Earth and Bad Timing all feature people lost and/or going off in a different direction as final scene).

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I hadn't caught the connection with Jack's final words. Maybe it's a more straightforward film than I'd thought. You're right about the classic Roeg ending; something that hadn't occurred to me.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.



"If I have any genius it is a genius for living" - Errol Flynn

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Is it just me, or does it look like it was Mickey Rourke's character who killed him? When they show a man walk into the room, it appears like Rourke's clothing; the same trousers and everything.

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Hey, didn't Claude cut Jack's head off to steal his soul? And maybe that's why Voodoo party is significant? Just a thought. Cause after Jack's death we see Claude mucking in the yard like he's probably hiding his head?

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I felt that Claude's line, "I always knew it would be you" when he looked in the mirror was Claude's realisation that he remained the same, philandering, unenlightened person he was before and that he was never going to change. I think he left Tracey as he knew he could never be worthy of her.

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