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Am I the only one who was a bit disappointed in the ending?


I know that it sort of had a happy ending, i mean miss mona and the cheriff get engaged so that's always good, but they spent so much time building up The Chicken Ranch as this really important place and it just got closed down. I guess everyone got what they wanted, but its sort of like one of those slasher films where the psychopath is still at large and going to strike again. Weird analogy but hope you get what I mean. Does anyone agree with me here?

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One has to take into consideration that the film is based on a true story. Marvin Zindler (aka Melvin P. Thorpe) did, in fact, direct national attention toward The Chicken Ranch, and succeeded in getting it shut down. In real life, there was no romantic connection between Miss Edna (Mona) and the Sheriff, so you've gotta at least credit Dolly and Burt for pushing for a romance storyline (which writer Larry L King vehemently protested and denounced), otherwise the film wouldn't have had a happy ending at all.


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so you've gotta at least credit Dolly and Burt for pushing for a romance storyline



Actully niether Dolly or Burt deserve any credit for that story line. The film is based on a show which niether of them had anything to do with. This is where the credit lies.


Book by Larry L. King and Peter Masterson; Music by Carol Hall; Lyrics by Carol Hall;

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Actually, in the original show, Miss Mona and Ed Earl only had a one night stand, 15 years in the past that had pretty much been forgotten. The only songs in the MOVIE that even advance the romance storyline were "Sneakin' Around" and "I Will Always Love You," BOTH of which were written by Miss Dolly, so she ABSOLUTELY deserves credit for at least a portion of that storyline. Not sure who had the idea to put the romantic storyline in there, but it most certainly WAS NOT in the original show, and Dolly did help to create it by writing "Sneakin' Around" and bringing in a song she had written and recorded 8 years earlier.

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You know, when the writer "vehemently protests and denouces" something, you need to pay attention to the mistakes being made. The ending of this movie was ridiculous and trite. sappy, happy endings tacked on to stories based on real events make me mad. If you're going to based something on a true story then BASE it on the the truth!

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That sounds good in theory but is impractical in the real world. Filmmaking is a business and to really succeed they have to please the masses. If the majority of moviegoers want cheerful, sudsy, happy endings, then that is what Hollywood has to provide to put bums on cinema seats and drive DVD sales. If they spent a fortune staging a big budget production with big names and gave it a downbeat ending to please the pedantic few, they would be lucky to be given the funding to make a second movie.

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I saw this as a teenager in the movie theater when it first came out, and the ending bummed me out too. But when I watch it today, it doesn't bother me as much. Guess I matured. :)

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I was disappointed in the whole movie, sans the parody bits, except the ending. All those women got saved from a life of hell, it was a happy ending.

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I saw the original Broadway play and I like that ending better. Not a sweet isn't it wonderful how things turned out so great ending but more realistic.

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And what do you think those women were going to do for living? Same thing, another place. (Probably worse place, with some pimp as the boss, what very likely leads do drugs, crime...) Or do you think they all went to the University?

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Actually, it has been reported in several places that a lot of them did go to college. Supposedly, one of the reasons the Chicken Ranch was so popular with the A&M boys was that a number of the girls working there were students at the University of Texas (Austin is about 60 miles from La Grange).

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Thanks, that's an interesting information.

However, we still don't get an answer why did those girls from University decide to chose this profession. If it was because they didn't have enough money for studying, how did they manage later? Simply choosing another profession? Or doing the same, but under worse and more illegal circumstances? Or if their motive was different, what would be changed in their minds and souls not to follow the same paths?

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A life of hell? Wow well aren't we the moralists? Have you asked any of them if it was a life of hell? Don't be deceived by your supposed sources. Live a little, and then talk. The ending was based on what actually happened to the real whorehouse, it was shut down. Just like prostitution was across most of this great land, thanks to the masses that can't handle anyone else having a good time while they live in their own moralist misery.

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To be kind, it was a very tough stage musical to adapt to the screen and I think almost any ending you could imagine would disappoint someone.



"the best that you can do is fall in love"

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Actully niether Dolly or Burt deserve any credit for that story line. The film is based on a show which niether of them had anything to do with.


Trust me, I know more than a little bit about this film, and Dolly deserves a lot more credit (or blame, depending on how one perceives it) than the film's credits may state...

The play was a ginormous success in the late '70s, and it seemed a natural progression that it should transition to film. Unfortunately, the bawdy play would've been too scandalous to transfer as is. Movie musicals weren't having much success and, by the early 80s, the studios were leery of making films that featured the shocking excesses that were prevalent in films of the '70s. So when Universal acquired the rights to the film, they decided to tone down the material and snag a singer for the leading role. And as soon as "Nine to Five" was being prepped, Dolly Parton jumped to the top of the list.

Here's an excerpt from Larry L. King's "The Whorehouse Papers:"

Early on, it turned out, Universal had Dolly Parton in mind. "Jesus," I said on hearing the news. "Too obvious. She looks like she might run a whorehouse or work in one." Some Universal naboob, however, had become enchanted with the idea of Dolly Parton and I don't believe anyone else was ever seriously considered. She is the only actress I know of who was squired to the play by Stevie Phillips and a half ton of assorted Universal brass. The night Ms. Parton was at the 46th Street Theatre, by the way, our irrepressible steel-guitar man, Lynn Frazier, leaned over during the warm-up music and said to fiddler Ernie Reed, "Hey, man, you see Dolly's tits?" Frazier did not realize, until it was too late, that a microphone had shared his question with much of the audience, including Stevie Phillips, who was furious. Fortunately, Ms. Parton thought it funny and so Lynn Frazier did not get handed a sandwich and a road map."


Larry L. King wanted Willie Nelson to play the Sheriff, and he had the deal all set... but Dolly decided the movie would be bad for her image, so she backed out. Universal, oblivious to the potential casting of Willie Nelson, snagged Burt Reynolds for the male lead, and Burt talked Dolly back into doing the movie. Universal later came to regret making this pairing, as both demanded a high salary and a cut of the profits -- and each refused to do the movie without the other.

Here's an excerpt from a US MAGAZINE story from April 15, 1980:

"Recently, Dolly saw the play in New York and was stunned to find that the relationship between Miss Mona and Sheriff Dodd was more talked about than acted upon. "In the play, the two never even touch," says Dolly, aghast. She immediately started scribbling changes. "There should be more of a direct personal thing between us, not just shared memories of what was," she explains. "I am not going to miss my chance with Burt Reynolds."


Larry L. King was not only disenchanted with the casting of Dolly, but downright hostile about the casting of Burt (a United Press story that hit newspapers around the time of the film's release had King challenging Reynolds to a fistfight, but I don't know what became of that). King described the third draft of the script as "perfection," but between Universal's notes, Dolly's notes and (most insultingly to King, it seems) Burt's notes, King rewrote the script countless more times before quitting.

Originally the film was going to be co-directed by Tommy Tune and Pete Masterson, who'd directed the Broadway hit, but then the pair were fired. Enter Collin Higgins, who co-wrote and directed "Nine to Five." Dolly had formed a friendship and trust with Higgins that was doubtlessly reflected when he rewrote the script (Higgins also received a writing credit on the film). Dolly wrote several songs for the film ("Sneakin' Around" is the only new song that made it to the final cut; "I Will Always Love You" had already been recorded once before; "Down at the Chicken Ranch" is heard in the trailer; and Burt's ballad "Where Stallions Run" appears in TV prints).

The movie wasn't much of a success in theatres, but there's probably two good reasons for that... The first is the title. Many TV stations and newspapers refused to advertise a film with the word "whorehouse" in the title (my, how times have changed!!). In some parts it was referred to as "The Best Little Cathouse," a title Parton herself used frequently when discussing the film in interviews. (As a side-note Ken Russell encountered the same ridiculous problem with his 1991 film "Whore," which was generally promoted without a title and the tagline "If you can't say it, see it.") The other obstacle in the way of the whorehouse's success was a lovable little alien named E.T. "E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial" was released about a month before "Whorehouse" and it instantly became a phenomenon, playing theatres for around a year (the first of two theatrical runs prior to its 1988 release on home video). Although a lot of beloved movies were released in the summer of '82, all of them were overshadowed by that little turtle-like alien. "The Best Little Whorehouse" was released on video in 1984 (if memory serves) and it made its TV debut in 1985 (with a drastically different alternate cut), both of which were very popular.

While it was nice to see that they trudged up a few vintage extras for the DVD (though I'm annoyed they didn't include "The Best Little Special in Texas"), it's a shame they didn't do a retrospective making-of. This overlong post is an abridged version of the fascinating story of the genesis of the film.

http://vinnierattolle.blogspot.com/

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Mona and the sheriff should have opened a New Chicken Ranch with all the same girls down the street.

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I loved the film and the ending. Burt and Dolly was great in this film. Charles Durning was a real scene stealer.

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