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This Friday on Voyagers! Episode 4: Agents of Satan


Originally aired 10/31/1982

Bogg and Jeff land in colonial Massachusetts. Their arrival is witnessed by a local who has them arrested as witches. Benjamin Franklin's mother is also under accusation, and if she dies, history changes.

Guest Cast

* Guy Stockwell: Reverent Noise
* Andy Wood: Francis Scott Key
* Jennifer Holmes: Abiah Folger
* Michael Durrell: Harry Houdini
* Marta DuBois: Margaret
* Earl Boen: Reverend Parris



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Better have the box of kleenax ready if you're one of those that get emotional really easy. This episode isn't one of my favorites, but I enjoyed it still. This episode also let's you know how Bogg finally feels about Jeffrey.

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This looks interesting. Back near the end of our Time Tunnel run, we were kicking around some ideas of plots they could have used for the last four or five instead of those awful alien episodes. One suggestion from Laurmartin was to have them suddenly materialize before witnesses in Salem, Massachusetts and be accused of witchcraft. It'll be interesting to see how they handle it here.

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Ok here we go....I liked this episode. They did a lot of shuffling around in time but for reason it didn't bother me as much this time. I did wonder why bogg couldn't remember Ben Franklin since they helped him in the previous episode. Bogg and that omni..he just can't hang on to it. He is apparently the most irresistible man on earth as well because all women must kiss him. The opening scene where they were chasing miss Folger looked like the same scenery from the tubbman chase in the slave episode. Still I liked the pacing and thought the show very humorous when they dropped in on Houdini. It was very unbelievable to think that all the people in the church would not have gotten up and at least walk to the place the ghosts were standing on the the stage but hey...who knows.
All in all I find myself liking the show better as it has gone along.
I give this one a 6 on the V scale. Way better than Night Gallery...

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I agree with you pretty much right down the line, Charmed. This was great fun, and yes, the first thing I thought of was the Tubman chase scene. I think those were even the same dogs.

And when they dropped in just as she called for help from Heaven...well, in my earlier post I mentioned Laurmartin suggesting a Salem plot for The Time Tunnel. The variation I suggested was to have Tony and Doug drop in at just the wrong time and have some innocent girl accused of conjuring them up. Would have been a great plot for T&D to squirm out of, and now I actually got to see it with PB&J. (Hmmm...do they ever meet the Earl of Sandwich?) I couldn't help but get a kick out of seeing them actually do "my" idea.

The performances were generally good all around. The two ministers laid it on a bit thick, but the little girls were suitably bratty, Meeno did a much more convincing emotionally distraught performance, and Bogg is getting to be more than two-dimensional.

But, of course, we must have a nitpick. When they were tying Bogg to the stake, that sucker was swaying and moving all over the place. Bogg didn't need the Omni; he could have just walked away. No way that stake was gonna hold him.

I almost had two nitpicks. As I was watching the church scene at the end, I realized that they would have needed three panes of glass, not two. But then came the "gotcha" ending that "got" me as well. Nicely done.

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There's something wrong here, I agree on all the above points too. I watch and scribble notes, and there is a sizable chunk that will be left out because you two have covered it.

The intro change to incorporate the actual and previous episodes was very nicely done in this one, best intro so far.

I was convinced that she was indeed a witch in the first few moments, when she ran up to the "Tubman" boulder and moved it a couple inches.

Bogg would remember Franklin from his hedonistic days in France and not from a few jumps in time before. Makes sense, give the guy a break, he's has to remember the wild oats past, because with Jeffrey in tow, there seems there won't be any future ones sown.

The stake, best Omni escape yet, even more inspired than the one that started it all in the pilot episode.

This is the first time (that I can remember)where they actually screw up history with their presence, and then have to clean up their own mess. Bogg really needs to put a chain on that Omni.
A few unexpected moments, nice period costumes and props in this. They're getting better.

I liked it, on the Voyagers! scale, a solid 7. Good pace and entertaining.

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The reason Bogg doesn't remember Franklin is that "Agents of Satan" was made before "Billy and Bully", although it was aired after.

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The begotten of this thing you created are on the Kolchak board, wandering in the digital desert looking for a place to settle once the Bezos flood wipes this place out.

If you're still among the living, let'em know.



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I love how the back of the DVD box is sure to note Shannon Doherty's appearance on the show ... when it's all of about 3 minutes!

Guess they were going for the "Shannon Doherty completist" (i.e., stalker)?

I always liked this episode, especially the twist at the end. And the Houdini part was memorable, too.

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Yes and it goes to show you that even the slightest change can turn a green light into a red light as quick as a flash.

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Episode Four

Struggled through this one the jumping around in time is starting to bother me. My mind is scattered enough once I start to get into the story they jump in time. I must admit Voyagers is a quantum leap above the NG and at times I even like it. It's becoming clearer why the show only made it one season it's just not that good. They seem to over play Bogg and his women does he have some magic charm or what? No one continues to get that lucky with the ladies when does he have time they don't stay anywhere more that fifteen minutes. The real ghost at the end was my favorite part at least they had a twist to the story something I didn't expect. I'm going to give this one 4 on the V Scale. Still have hope the episodes will get better as we go further through time.

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Night Gallery left a really bitter taste behind, didn't it? I mean, some things start to look good in retrospect, but the farther we get from Night Gallery, the worse it seemed to be.

I like it, and agree with just about everything the posters before you have said. I would disagree with the notion that anyone would actually want to approach the manifestations in the Salem church. I don't know many people even to this day who would run towards something like that instead of cringing or running away. Bogg and Jeffrey should have arranged to have the doors locked, the minute they were setting the illusion up I envisioned everyone running from the church screaming and yelling, I don't think they would have stuck around to hear what an apparition had to say.

It seems as the episodes go along, the limitations and functions of the Omni present more enigmas than before. When Bogg says "For us to miss again" after landing in the middle of a Zulu war opened a can of worms for me. Can they actually set Where they are going, or just When they are going? There doesn't seem to be a "where", and it seems either random or to a spot there are problems at that time. It was shown that using the current time results in nothing happening, so what's he do, go ahead a few minutes to escape...but wait, they would mean they're still in the hole, he puts in a different time and suddenly they're in Africa or wherever?

All this confusion didn't detract from the enjoyment though, I liked the episode. I was left wondering who stole the stairs going up the side of the cliff, they clearly showed the steps in the beginning, but by the end they had to climb the side of the cliff.

On the Voyagers scale, this one gets a 6, they're getting better.

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Where did everyone go? It's been too quite.

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I think our record breaking comments from last weeks episode must drained the crew.

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Been to Chicago. No impromptu stopover in Angola, Indiana this time. Life is good.

I will add that I don't think the folks would have approached the "ghosts" either. I say this from experience, believe it or not.

Growing up in the '60s, my sister and I, along with assorted friends and cousins used to hang around a small cemetery that was near our parents' summer home. We'd go there at night to tell ghost stories, etc. Just to liven things up, my cousin and I set up a ghost in the back of the cemetery. It was a stick about four feet long, upright in the ground with a flashlight bulb near the top and a plastic dry cleaner bag hung over it. We wired it so we could control the light from a couple of hundred feet away. We then told everybody we were going to hold a seance, and at the proper moment, I turned on the light. There was this blob of light that was moving slightly; a gentle breeze was blowing the bag around.

The reactions ranged from hysteria to frozen panic to one guy who ran off, didn't look where he was going, ran headlong into a tree and knocked himself cold. Nobody who wasn't in on the scam was interested in approaching it. And these were people who were not already in a frenzy over witch trials.

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I thought that the link to Ben Franklin was a stretch. But who knows about "small world" phenomenon.
Did anyone else notice that when they showed the harbor scene, there was one ship listing and another one sunk. It must have been from a revolutionary war picture or something.
I didn't like the "Zulu" war scene. What was that supposed to be. Was there a problem there that needed fixing? I think that they didn't have to worry about it since the spear throwing from "point blank" range sucked so bad that these people would starve to death before they could kill any game, never mind 2 people who fell from the sky.
I liked the accusing girls in the witch trial. It hit home how these people wanted to believe in witches and let the lies of young, bad girls justify the killings.
ckocher made a comment about Shannon Doherty's credit. Who did she play? I thought she was too young to be in this in 82? IMDB has her born in 71.

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She's only a year younger than Meeno so it was right for her to play one of the accusing girls. I think she played Betty, the one who started it all. The brat. LOL.

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"ckocher made a comment about Shannon Doherty's credit. Who did she play?"

I think you just made my point about how crazy it is that she's touted on the back of the DVD box. ;)

As was pointed out, she's one of the accusing girls.

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All I recognized was an actress who I had seen on "The Little House on the Prairie." Aside from that, I don't think I've ever seen her in anything else.

It doesn't seem anyone wants to address the "where" issue with the Omni. Best answer to that question is probably just shut up and suspend disbelief!

That harbor scene was in a movie, I just can't remember which one, but I know I've seen it before. Some pirate flick. The harbor looks like it was done with a matte painting and the ships were run aground long ago.

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I am still pondering the where issue with the omni. There may be more info ahead to come up with an insane theory.

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The Omni "where" issue still ties in, I think, with my earlier theory about the workings of the Omni. I believe it is limited in some manner to where and when they can go, perhaps only to trouble spots that need correcting. They have some control, in that they can jump from one trouble spot to another, but cannot move around at will.

However, this episode threw a wrench in that theory, because if it were true, there would be no reason for them to show up at the Houdini seance. That was not a trouble point until they showed up. But other than that*, my theory works so far.

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You would also have to ignore their jump to the middle of a Zulu (or whatever) battle. Even if there were a problem there, they never returned, and even with the abysmal marksmanship of the natives, they would have been killed if they'd stumbled in popping the Omni open.

That's two holes in one episode, I think your theory just got downgraded to a postulate. Not that I can come up with anything better, though.

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Ha! I'm not that easy to downgrade! Or, at least, it's not that easy to get me to admit that I've been downgraded.

The fact that they never returned to the Zulu battle doesn't mean there was nothing for them to do there. Maybe they'd get around to that problem--whatever it was--in season two. I don't remember if they mentioned a green light there, and I'm too lazy to go back and check, so with no green light, it cannot be an exception. I'm back to a theory.

Besides, if the only exceptions turn out to be in a single episode, I'm not above declaring, "That episode sucks", despite everything I said earlier in this thread. (See my comments on the same issue in The Time Tunnel - "Secret Weapon".)

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The answer to the Zulu question lies with the dings and the dongs. When the light is green, the Omni dings once.
When the light is red, it ring a ding dings.
We don't get to see the open Omni in this scene, but the Omni is ring a ding dinging away. The red light (is that a light? I don't really remember) near the hinge however is not illuminated. Maybe the Omni rings with a green light when they're in the wrong place, but that wouldn't make sense, because it gives one ding when they're deposited on the seance table.
Future episodes may indeed hold more clues as to the true nature of the Omni.

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They deleted all those great threads, may as well bump this one.

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bump, thread getting precariously close to the precipice of board trimming.

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