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Did anyone else think that this was a remake of Green Acres?


In both series, a couple moves from New York City to a rural area (albeit for different reasons) and they find themselves surrounded by a cast of eccentric characters. Both Eddie Albert and Bob Newhart and their spouses are the only sane ones in the community but are considered to be the odd ones by everyone else. I always thought there was something very Kafka-like of both series. In both cases, the main characters didn't conform to other people's definition of "normal behavior" so they were considered weird. And that's what made both shows very funny.

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I'd go as far to say the "premise" is similar and definetly the idea
of the "odd" townspeople. But i think that's where the sdimialrites end.

In Green Acres,Gabor 7 E. Albert's characters were rich
& hada penthouse. The Louden's were pretty much middle class.




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Yes, you're right. But the producers had to make the main characters different otherwise the similarities would have been too obvious.

As a footnote, Eddie Albert once stated that Oliver W. Douglas was his favorite role because, as he said, "it went over the heads of so many people". Too many people kept trying to understand why a rich lawyer would leave Park Ave. to become a farmer in a small one-horse town. And by doing so, they missed the whole point of the series. What made it funny is that it didn't make any sense but rather than just laugh at it, they tried to analyze it to death. I suspect those same people did the same with Newhart.

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More like Funny Farm starring Chevy Chase.

"Fasten your seatbelts. It's going to be a bumpy night"

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The idea of the town in Newhart being a bunch of crazies didn't really start until Season 3. Up to that point, some of the characters were normal people, like Leslie and Cindy. Stephanie wasn't as dumb or selfish in Season 2 as she would be in later years. Michael was much more calm and restrained in his early episodes than he would become. Larry and the Darryls appearances were infrequent, and not as ridiculous as they became.

It may have evolved into a partial homage to Green Acres, but I don't think that was the original plan.

An interesting note would be that ion the Season 8 episode when Michael becomes a lounge singer, one of the songs he sings is the Green Acres theme. Maybe that was Newhart's way of acknowledging the similarities?

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You may very well be right. It may not have started that way but the producers may have decided to go in that direction because season 2's ratings were much lower that season 1's (from 12 it fell to 23 in the Nielsen's) so the creators - and the suits at CBS - may have decided to tear a page from Green Acres in an effort to reinvigorate the series. And it seemed to work. For the next three seasons, it was ranked in the top 20.

Actually, there were some inklings of the zaniness of the townspeople from the first season. George Utley remained charmingly clueless from the beginning and in the episode when Dick Louden runs for town councilman, we are introduced to some of the other oddballs in the series like Jim and Chester. But I will agree with you that in the first two seasons, the series focused mainly on Dick and Joanna's relationships with each other and with Kirk Devane. It didn't evolve into the series it would ultimately become until the third season as you said.

I didn't think about the Green Acres theme being sung by Michael on the episode you mentioned. But it may well have been an homage to the earlier series. It's probable that the producers didn't want to make the similarities too obvious which is why, as I mentioned in my other post, no other mention of Green Acres or anything about it was ever made on Newhart. But if anyone looks close enough, they will notice the similarities.

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Green Acres was solely Beverly Hillbillies in reverse; rich people who moved to the backwoods country.

While Newhart was encountering strange country folk, much the same as Andy Griffith show, the behavior of the locals on Green Acres was hardly because they were country-fied.

All Eddie Albert did was whine and protest a question, setting up each ridiculous delivery from whoever he spoke with; Eb, Kimball, Haney, etc.

Green Acres ran a minor joke like a pig being 'a member of the family' into the ground.

If Newhart had been like Green Acres, we would have had the marriages of Larry, Darryl and Darryl (looking like an old 3 Stooges bit with STella, Nella and Bella) and one or all three of them having triplets or something.

As off-beat as the Newhart characters may have been, like Andy Griffith, at least they stayed in character.

There's no memorably hilarious moments with Ralph, Eb, Alph or Kimball. I absolutely hate Kimball's dialogue.

"Hey, I dialed a log once. At least I think I did. At least I think I thought I did."

Haney had the best shtick, but all that was was, I happen to have one here in the truck.

The most telling moment to me on how phony and empty Green Acres was took place at the end of the reunion movie (promoted with "before Twin Peaks, there was .... . GREEN ACRES!") and Oliver fell thru the hole in the floor or something and this time, LISSA WENT WITH HIM!

I thought, they're trying to make them a couple now and not just him reacting to other people's silliness.



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Actually, some of your descriptions of Green Acres also occurred on Newhart. There were many times when Dick Louden would get exasperated at the seemingly sophomoric actions of the townspeople like when he allegedly killed the Great White Buck or when he had to wear a beaver tail when he joined the Beaver Lodge. And his reaction made him the subject of wonderment among his neighbors. Or how about the time Larry, Darryl and Darryl made a pancake that looked like the face of Paul Anka and the only person who couldn't see the resemblance was Dick. Or those goofy guests that appeared on Vermont Today. The only one who didn't like them was Dick. But each time Dick tried to react with logic, he became the laughing stock of the town. Those scenarios resembled what Oliver Douglas had to endure on Green Acres. In both cases, that's what made both shows funny. Keep in mind, there was a 20-year gap between these two series so the producers of Newhart had to make many changes so that audiences from the 80s could relate to it. As I said, I don't think it was the producers' intentions to just make the show a carbon copy of Green Acres; they just wanted to adapt the concept and modernize it.

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Hardly.

Eddie Albert played straight man, endlessly screwing up his face with questions that he should have eventually realized was a waste of time asking.

The logic seemed to be he was more Andy Griffith. "I'll make all the sense and everyone else will be silly."

Newhart would at times try to reason with the locals, but the joke would just as often be his as it would be theirs.

Now the one I watched this morning had the fire chief say no one can drive the fire truck until they have been a fireman for ten years.

It is revealed over the episode that numerous sets of keys to the fire truck have been lost throughout the years; accidentally taken home, lost, etc.

Dick AND George Utley ask isn't that risky. Someone could just come in the station and steal the truck.

The chief responds, nobody is allowed to drive the fire truck until they have been a fireman for ten years.

Now comparable to Green Acres, but it was solid. It wasn't just the mindless rambling Kimball or Eb would do. We had heard the statement made earlier in the episode. Nothing Eb, Kimball or Ralph and Alph ever connected to a previous statement or event.

When Peter Scolari enters and says, where's that little girl I like to call (wide-eyed pause) Stephanie?

Newhart responds with, she's in what we like to call (wide-eyed pause) her bedroom. This was Newhart's joke.

When Julie Brown made her second appearance as Buffy Denver, she says she will spend the afternoon with Dick. He says no she won't, and races her up the stairs all the while laughing just like her behind her. That was Newhart's bit.

There was rumors of aliens being seen. Everyone was panicking, huddled in the inn and turn out the lights. Larry, Darryl and Darryl enter the darkened inn with only a pair of flashlights and Larry makes his intro.

All you hear is Newhart, that would explain a lot. That was Newhart's joke.

By comparison, Albert never got off a funny bit like this, and these are just some of my favorites from Newhart.

The meeting of quirky characters who remotely make sense in what they do really began with Mary Tyler Moore's show.

I've been catching old Abbott and Costello reruns and the shows are just set up to make Costello look flustered as tho that is funny.

This is about the same thing with Albert on Green Acres, but in the end, Albert wasn't a brilliant straight man of any kind and the antics of the others was never overwhelmingly funny.

Tom Lester just blathers on and Kimball just makes no sense and nothing he says connects.

The strongest one of GA really is Haney, who could have been a town preacher or something the way he spoke and responded. Or a town politician.

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Yes Richard. you're right in what you say. This is why I'm stressing the point that Newhart was not a direct remake of Green Acres. Of course, both lead characters are different and will react differently in the same situation. The point I'm making is that the concept of both shows are similar. In both cases, a relatively well-educated couple move from New York to settle in a small rural community and find themselves surrounded by eccentric, off-the-wall characters who think the newcomers are the strange ones because they don't think the way the townsfolk do. I agree the supporting characters themselves and their personalities are different in both shows but that was as it should have been because even though the small town on Newhart is in the country, the residents were not farmers. Such changes had to be made to reflect these differences. But the concept remains similar, IMO.

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Green Acres was by and large a reversal of Beverly Hillbillies, wanting to show the rich city people in the country. In essence, in both instances, the country people were idiots.

But on Newhart, other than Larry, Darryl and Darryl and Tom Poston, no one else is really 'countrified'.

Newhart encountered 'crazies' on The Bob Newhart show as well, both in his sessions and with Marcia Wallace, Peter Bonerz and Bill Daily, among others.

But that was the entire focus on Green Acres, Eddie Albert being flustered by the so-called locals and trying to reason them.

Newhart was hardly the 'outsider' to things going on at the Stratford Inn and in Vermont.

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Green Acres definitely inspired Newhart.

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"Where are your weapons?"
"Don't need them."
"Why?"
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No, it was more just a rehashing of "The Bob Newhart Show" and they replaced his crazy patients with locals in Vermont.

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