forgotten classic?


i never see it on tv, no one talks about it much

have people forgotten it?

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I haven't forgotten it. I think Cheers is a better show than Frasier. The first 5 seasons are the best, after that the show slowly goes downhill. The final episode is very good though.

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Cheers is better than Frasier for sure. Frasier had a lot more clunky episodes and the only two strong characters on Frasier were Frasier and Niles. All the characters on Cheers were well used and strong, while Roz, Daphne and Martin were weak. Eddie on the other hand had all of them beat.

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It's not popular with younger audiences, so yeah, it's not talked about.

As far as it being a classic, I'm kind of torn on it. Yes, it's beloved by many people. It was extremely popular in it's hey day.

But I'm kinda torn on it. I'm currently rewatching the whole thing. I have been since like last April or May. I put it on while I'm cooking or working out. It's my background show or standby when I can't find anything to watch. Don't get me wrong, it's funny, but it's not hilarious. I'm not even sure how to put it into words, but the humor can be a little...simple? So simple sometimes it's not even funny. Makes you think "THIS is supposed to be the best sitcom ever?" And the characters are not deep at all. It's the same jokes, gags, personality traits over and over. No growth or development, aside from maybe Fraiser. No real drama or storylines. And the Sam and Diane thing was COMPLETELY played out. I cringed during the court episode where where she was suing him and the judge agreed to throw it out if they worked it out. Not only were they constantly on again off again, they were engaged SEVERAL times; only for her to walk away. Diane was funny and quick witted, but EVERYTHING about her was stale. I'm finding the post-Diane stuff to be refreshing. And again, I think the show is funny, I enjoy the familiarity of it, and do really enjoy watching it, but funniest show of all time? Not for my money.

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The characters are not deep? They're as deep as those on most sitcoms.
No growth or development? Ditto. And sitcoms that delve into the "very special" are notoriously unfunny.
No real drama? It's a sitcom.
No storylines? "Cheers" was made when tv shows were still one-off episodes. It was actually innovative for its time by having several plot through-lines that spanned many episodes and even seasons.

But I agree that, although it is a classic, it's not the funniest show of all time. It's up close to the top, but there's really no way to determine which show is the funniest because it's subjective. There are no doubt a lot of people who would vote for "I Love Lucy", which I've never cared for, or even "Gilligan's Island", which I haven't found funny since I was twelve.

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Rewatching it a few years back I found the characters to be unbearable and unlikeable, especially Diane. I liked Carla best (and may be always did) because she was forthright. But the rest, nah.


The same with Taxi which was a fave in the day. I wonder what changed in my life.

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Cheers, I Love Lucy, Roseanne and Green Acres are my favorites.

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I am rewatching it and realizing what a superb show it was, especially the first five seasons, each having a very distinct tone, thanks in large part to the relationship between Sam and Diane. And the supporting cast is almost as good.

Probably the best comedy series of the 1980s. Though I would put Police Squad! ahead of it in terms of quality and laughs per episode. Cheers wins because it lasted so long.

I don't like many of the sitcoms from the 80s. MASH by that time was really bad. I tried watching some popular shows like Growing Pains, Family Ties, Cosby Show, Who's the Boss and I didn't like any of them enough to watch any further.

There are a few shows I've liked but haven't seen many episodes like Barney Miller and Newhart.

I love Married with Children and Sledge Hammer!, too.

So far, I would say the 90s was the best decade for sitcoms.

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I never liked Growing Pains or Family Ties. IMO, the fun of Family Ties was basically Michael J Fox. I think he's really talented.

I tried watching Cheers recently and I agree the acting and writing are very good. I think the culture has changed and therefore the joke context have also changed. Things like Diane's faculty advisor/boss having a relationship with her, were more tolerated, even if everyone knew it was wrong. That it was wrong was not said openly, so you could have a situation where everyone in the bar sees that her fiance is going to leave, except Diane. It's not that the other people in the bar don't know he's a jerk. The joke is that Diane's the only one who doesn't see it, which also tells us something about Diane. Nowadays, a woman with Diane's personality would immediately detect that her boss was coming on to her and her reaction might be more like reporting him to the Dean or something like that. So Diane's reaction doesn't have the same comedy power as it did back then.

I still love Who's the Boss even though it's veeeeeeery dated. Tony is very old-fashioned about protecting Sam. Even in the last season, it's made clear that he and Angela are not sleeping together. Even though that probably was not realistic even back in the 80s, I like that they made it so explicitly family friendly, and I feel like it added a sort of emotional purity that's still refreshing. I compare it with The Nanny (as an example of a more recent "family friendly" show) and The Nanny seems very sexually focused to me: he's rich and cultured, she's poor and uncultured, they maintain that incompatibility throughout the show, but she keeps him interested in her using her sex appeal. I think Maxwell's character is quite shallow. It's still very funny but for me also has a bit of a bad taste? Whereas I think Tony and Angela still works as a beautiful, funny love story that also allows itself to be sad in the right places.

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its just not funny

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its in my top 2 sitcoms of all time.

Cheers and Seinfeld

its still enjoyable to watch I think. not sure when it went out of syndication though

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