Soccer is not a sport or movie! - Victory (1981) Discussion

[–] 18 years ago

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Play an entire soccer game. On the field, and not as goal tender. One week later, play a game of American Football. Then, ignore the numbers on the scoreboard, and tell me which game was more competitive, more physically demanding, and more challenging.

Then we'll talk.

Fact 2: "Garbledina."

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[–] bassbar 18 years ago

goal tender? lmao!

what's with all the girly padding in american 'football' anyway?

btw, if i wanted big scores i'd put the cricket on or maybe some darts

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[–] godsboss10 18 years ago

American football? One word mate... Rugby. Far more phsically demanding and just as technically advanced but without wearing a suit of armour. Football isnt a sport? Err...it's played all over the world mate....who plays American Football? Baseball? Basketball? Ice Hockey? These four sports combined dont have nearly the cumuletive interest that football has. Go to Africa in the developing nations and see what Football does for the spirit and hope of a starving, dieing community in the most unforgiving conditions. Football has more political and emotional power than any non fan could possibly imagine. This attitude is quite typical of America bein'the greatest (Yeehaa) and not realising/caring what the rest of the world are up to. It's so blinkered it's untrue...to actually disrespect and write off the most popular sport in the world and then harp on about a sport so remote that in it's very title is the nessescity to point out it's country of origin (Bearing in mind Football was played Central and South America long before "American Football" was born) is frankly ludicrous. Im not against American football, it has a large following inthe states and i wouldnt pretend to even understand it enough to comment on it's quality as a game, but one things for certain...attitudes of US Americans and Europeans towards sport differ enourmously.

"I laugh in the face of danger. Drop ice cubes down the vest of fear." Edmund Blackadder

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[–] wolverineland 18 years ago

I never even mentioned American football as a comparison to soccer in this argument. I suppose that if I compared yacht racing or golf to soccer then I can say that soccer is exciting because it is the least boring of the three. Also, soccer isnt rugby. I never even mentioned rugby either. Do you people bother reading posts before you take the time to reply to them? I am not a fan of rugby or gaelic football but at least I can appreciate them as full contact sports where one truly gets injured participating in. In soccer there is nothing entertaining about watching some little Mexican dude or some pasty Brit roll around all over the field because they got tripped and humiliated in front of a stadium of 100,000 drunken maniacs. Soccer is a third world "sport" and probably always will be. David Beckham is supposed to be the greatest soccer player in the world since Pele but here in the United States he is known as Mr.Posh Spice and most Americans wouldnt recognize him from Adam if they saw him on the street. I do know who Vinnie Jones is and like him as a comedic actor but just learned recently and without care that he was a soccer star.

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[–] seruzz2003 18 years ago

If you even read what he typed, you would have known that he is reffering to AMERICAN FOOTBALL as RUGBY.

Your ignorance towards football has shown your lack of knowledge towards football. Beckham supposed to be the greatest since Pele? Thats the stupidest statement ever. You only know one single footballer and that footballer happens to be Beckham and you presume him to be the best since Pele just because he is the only footballer you know! Please refrain yourself from making a fool out of yourself.

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[–] wolverineland 18 years ago

All soccer players look alike to me. I mean occasionally you have a goalkeeper with a shaved head or some spanish guy with a huge yellow afro but other than that, every player to play the game kinda gets blurred together. I admit I know nothing about the players but I know the basic rules of the game and that is enough for me to make any kind of statement I choose. You Euro's take this game way too seriously. How many innocent people have been trampled to death or killed in the name of national soccer pride? Soccer is a poor mans "sport". I dont care how much money it generates from merchandising.

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[–] godsboss10 18 years ago

Okay, lets get something straight. It's called "Football". And yes, it is a working class sport, im not sure what your problem with that is? Also, who do you reffer to when you say "you people"? I mentioned Rugby because your idea's of contact sport are purley relative. If you ask a rugby player to comment on American football, he will most likely express an opinion similar to that which you offer about football. You've demonstrated without doubt a distinct lack of knowladge of the game of football and hence lose the right to pass judgement so vehemently. The fact that most Americans wouldnt recognise David Beckham is entirley irrellevent and only highlights the fact that North America has yet to realise what Europe, Asia, Africa, South America, and Australasia have known for years...that is that Football is the most played/most watched/ most entertaining game in the world. The last statement is of course a matter of opinion but the previous two statements of fact suggest its truth. To make a fine point, the entire NBA, NFL, NHL and NBL could walk through any town in England and wouldnt be hassled for so much as an autograph between them. I imagine the same could be said for most countries outside North America...while the rest of the world is playing Football, the USA are indulging in sports that have largley failed to capture the imagination of the rest of the world on any similar scale. Lets be honest though, we are talking about an audience comprised of grown men who watch "wrestleing". I understand your viewpoint as anything exclusivley American is brainwashed into the public mindset via polotics and the media as being bigger and better than any comparable. Two other things you touched upon are "Taking football too seriously" and Hooliganis'm. These two are mutually exclusive. There are hooligans whom, in the name of football (or so we are to believe) commit mindless acts of violence. But these are not Football "Fans", just thugs like there are in every walk of life, they are the ink stain on the sheet of the beautiful game. No one wants them involved in football, any more that you want, Drugs, Corruption and Illegal gambeling in American Football. If you dont like football, then your opinion (of which you are entitled and which i would not be as arrogant to say is wrong) is very much in the minority of the sporting world. But you can excercise some releif....simply do not watch it...and certainly dont watch films with a strong football theme. Finally, i would like to say (tounge firmley in cheek) Very best of luck to the USA in forthecoming World Cup!

"I laugh in the face of danger. Drop ice cubes down the vest of fear." Edmund Blackadder

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[–] godsboss10 18 years ago

Okay, lets get something straight. It's called "Football". And yes, it is a working class sport, im not sure what your problem with that is? Also, who do you reffer to when you say "you people"? I mentioned Rugby because your idea's of contact sport are purley relative. If you ask a rugby player to comment on American football, he will most likely express an opinion similar to that which you offer about football. You've demonstrated without doubt a distinct lack of knowladge of the game of football and hence lose the right to pass judgement so vehemently. The fact that most Americans wouldnt recognise David Beckham is entirley irrellevent and only highlights the fact that North America has yet to realise what Europe, Asia, Africa, South America, and Australasia have known for years...that is that Football is the most played/most watched/ most entertaining game in the world. The last statement is of course a matter of opinion but the previous two statements of fact suggest its truth. To make a fine point, the entire NBA, NFL, NHL and NBL could walk through any town in England and wouldnt be hassled for so much as an autograph between them. I imagine the same could be said for most countries outside North America...while the rest of the world is playing Football, the USA are indulging in sports that have largley failed to capture the imagination of the rest of the world on any similar scale. Lets be honest though, we are talking about an audience comprised of grown men who watch "wrestleing". I understand your viewpoint as anything exclusivley American is brainwashed into the public mindset via polotics and the media as being bigger and better than any comparable. Two other things you touched upon are "Taking football too seriously" and Hooliganis'm. These two are mutually exclusive. There are hooligans whom, in the name of football (or so we are to believe) commit mindless acts of violence. But these are not Football "Fans", just thugs like there are in every walk of life, they are the ink stain on the sheet of the beautiful game. No one wants them involved in football, any more that you want, Drugs, Corruption and Illegal gambeling in American Football. If you dont like football, then your opinion (of which you are entitled and which i would not be as arrogant to say is wrong) is very much in the minority of the sporting world. But you can excercise some releif....simply do not watch it...and certainly dont watch films with a strong football theme. Finally, i would like to say (tounge firmley in cheek) Very best of luck to the USA in forthecoming World Cup!

"I laugh in the face of danger. Drop ice cubes down the vest of fear." Edmund Blackadder

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[–] wolverineland 18 years ago

Is it World Cup time again? I never would have known hadnt you reminded me. Soccer is like 10th in popularity here in the U.S. and thats only because we have so many immigrants in this country. Everybody knows the U.S. mens team will lose in the first round and nobody cares. The U.S. women's team is the best in the world and once again nobody cares. There are so many sports here in the U.S. to capture people's interest. I kind of like the fact that we are an arrogant country and dont need the interests shared by the outside world. It doesnt make us #1 as a soccer team but it does make the United States the number one country in the world. Thats why everybody is fighting to get in but nobody is fighting to get out. Nuff said. booyah!

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[–] bassbar 18 years ago

lmao, i'm so glad you're not representative of the majority of americans.

incidentally, why are the winners of the superbowl called 'world' champions when no other country can take part? why are the winners of the 'world' series of baseball called 'world' champions when no other country can take part? very bizarre.

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[–] godsboss10 18 years ago

My apologies. I didnt realise you were a politically dillusional fool. A pure product of the American media. Theres 45 minutes ill never get back!

"I laugh in the face of danger. Drop ice cubes down the vest of fear." Edmund Blackadder

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[–] wolverineland 18 years ago

Hey, my original post was about a movie and its connection with soccer. The Euro-trolls came in and made it politically charged by rattling off countries and national pride. Dont hate me cause you aint me buddy. Your jealousy of me and the great country I live in forces you to call me brainwashed by my media. I dont like the media. The media should keep their noses out of American business especially American interests overseas. I assume you are from the United Kingdom. Keep in mind that you would be speaking German right now and eating saurbraten and you would have no internet to post your views on because Europe would be a unified Germany if not for the valiant efforts of FDR and the U.S. Armed Forces.

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[–] bassbar 18 years ago

oh dear, we have russia to thank for that before we get to you.

it's bewildering to think why we should be jealous of one of our colonies lol

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[–] seruzz2003 18 years ago

Your original post is about insulting football and insulting the people who play it. Not to mention that you hinted that your country is 'superior' just because this movie tanked there and that you think football is not a sport. You basically started off this series of tirade so you only have yourself to be blamed.

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[–] richard-850 18 years ago

Wolverineland is not the brightest of sparks.

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[–] bioskope 16 years ago

yo numbnuts last I heard The East Front was what derailed the Nazi war machine not FDR, not the *beep* Atomic Bombs, not the U-Boats and definitely not your kind. Oh and your country is tanking with its trillions in debt and a joke of a head of state. I'd be more worried about my future rather than dissing the relatively well of europeans if i were you.

Hey, I thought you had her at 'Squishy Ball'

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[–] bigpigpl 17 years ago

I have one question for anyone who calls the biggest sport in the world "Soccer"

What does 'FIFA' stand for?

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[–] rebornandgrow 11 years ago

So since nobody answered:

You know, this sport does have an official name and that is "Association Football", not soccer of even only football. Football is just the popular name to call it.

"Association Football" was created in the UK in the 1860's when it splits from Rugby Football. UK's four National Associations joined the same rules of the game and also create rules for international games between them in the 1880's. Those four Associations formed then the International Football Association Board (IFAB), to discuss annually any possible improvement for the game. This is still today the main organism that vote any change in the rules of the game.

FIFA is the French acronym for Fédération Internationale de Football Association and was created in Paris in the early XX century because of the increase popularity of the game in continental Europe. Then it was just a set of rules to organize international games between each National Association. IFAB didn't like it at all.

We can say that until 1950, FIFA was the rival organism of the International Board, despite being part of it since 1913. UK's Associations also joined FIFA but boycotted it in the 1920's (First World War drama uhhhhh). FIFA also hardly had any power on IFAB, because the voting system privileged UK's Associations.

So you have in one side the IFAB and on the other FIFA. IFAB organized football's Olympic Tournament until the First World War, when FIFA took over it, with super success in the 1920's. So they decided to create their own World Cup of Nations, that was launched in 1930.

As the game became a Worlwide success, FIFA had more and more Associations, and the World Cup after the Second World War became the main competition of the game. The Olympics were for amateurs and became less important.

Also, UK's Associations rejoined FIFA after the Second World War and IFAB changed voting policy in 1958 to allow FIFA having same status as the other four British Associations.

FIFA is now the World's governing body of the game, the top of the pyramid, followed by each Continental Federations, then by each National Association and then followed by each Regional Association and so on. IFAB, as i said, only decides changes in the rules, nothing more.

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[–] wildgoose419 16 years ago

Wolverineland,
Your messages belong to the soccer hating message board, not he movie discussion message board. Just for your information, there are more countries that play soccer than there are in the United Nations. Maybe it's not a sport to you, but let others appreciate it. While everybody is at it, discuss something about the movie, OK?

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[–] lroy77 14 years ago

As I understand it, rugby is very similar to what we call (American) football...to a point.

I suppose the same could be said for "cricket" is what we call (American) baseball.

No, I do not understand rugby or cricket, never even SEEN the game played but would like any Brit to explain it in simple terms us Americans can understand in relation to the "American" counterparts. If that is possible.

Personally, I prefer figure skating than any of these "violent" sports.

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[–] jenny_ball666 13 years ago

nah baseball originated from rounders, a much, much better sport.

cricket is amazing though.

americans will never ever "get" football. the hype in england and scotland especially is insane. football fans can hate members of their own family if they support a rival team and its derby day! its all about belonging to a group, supporting your local team (glory hunters shame on you) and spending time with family. ive got a season ticket with my little bro, two aunts, mum, two uncles and cousin.

its the most popular sport in the world, and for the life of me i cant understand why americans are so slow to get on the football bandwagon.

www.saintsfc.co.uk

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[–] jeffcarroll 10 years ago

Rugby explained.
This is the ball.
Get it over that line and on the ground.
Or kick it over that bar.
Do that before the *beep* referee blows his whistle.
repeat.
After half time do it again.
At the end of the game shake the hand of the opposition players that you have been kicking the *beep* out of for the last 80 minutes.
Then go have a beer.

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[–] max10822 18 years ago

"I never even mentioned American football as a comparison to soccer yadda yadda yadda"

wolverine you are full of *beep* football(or soccer as you call it) is a sport, of course, the best one by far imo...just because you don't like it you don't need to go slating it with your *beep* You are totally generalizing on the whole diving thing...sure it exists but the sprot isn't constituted only of that...also the whole injury thing doesn't make a sport a sport, even though people have had horrible injuries in football(eg damaged cruciate lgiamentes, broken legs and toher fractures)....and where the hell did you get the absurd idea that beckham was the best ever since pelé?? beckham was never ever the best palyer at any given moment in history...he's just a reasonable guy who makes good passes and shots, but has almost zero dribbling skill... I can think of over 100 palyers who vastly outclass him...you're welcome not to like a sport...but you should put some research into it before you go making up such nonsense...the whole "soccer being a third world sport" thing passes off as really arrogant of you...are you saying the third world is made up of inferior people and cultures?

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[–] lroy77 14 years ago

I just LOVE your accent. Too bad the blog doesn't have sound effects.

American gal. Sorry..."BIRD".

Now let's talk about "gentler" sports like figure skating...now that's REALLY international.

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[–] forbes13 18 years ago

This "wolverineland" needs to read a book or two and travel. This is why the majority of the world despises us. Ignorance personified. So typical and physically painful to read. Life is too short to be so predictable. What it must be like to have everything figured out?

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[–] wolverineland 18 years ago

The majority of the the world despises us because of jealousy. They hate us because we are the number one country in the world that everyone looks to for a hand out but when we give them that hand out, they hate us for it even though they have benefitted in some way from it. It goes back as far as World War 2. Europeans have no gratitude but dont realize how close they came to losing their cultures if not for us.

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[–] forbes13 18 years ago

That is a huge generalization my friend and a dangerous manner of thinking. If this arrogance does not stop, we will all pay the price. I am not going to try and convince you of anything based on your views.
If we were not all concerned about this race to be "#1" then maybe the world could benefit.
The "opinion" you stated concerning football fervently displays your lack of understanding for other cultures of the world...But yours is #1 right?

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[–] honzarev 18 years ago

Dear wolverineland,
1. Football isn`t big in the States, because it is of no benefit to the american broadcasting media, as there is no way to squeeze enough commercials in two halfs of 45 minutes. When your country hosted the World Cup in 1994, the organizers wanted to reshape the game into 6 periods of 15 minutes each and truly believed they will finally glamourize the " dull soccer thingy" stuffing it with much more useful info, such as Chips,KFC,Mc,Coke sport and healthy initiatives.
2. I'd be truly gratified if you tell me which sport that you care about in your country has no foreigners or "emmigrants" whatever this means in a two-centuries-old state.
Hockey is so cool, but first- it`s Canadian, and second- I believe your national side battles heroicly for the 6th place in the world ranking alongside Kazakhstan and Belarus.
Your basketball Dream Team is a joke and gets his ass kicked by Lithuania and Puerto Rico for a fourth major world tournament. And oh, I forgot- the best players in the NBA are no longer your indigenous people- the Afroamericans, but foreigners -german, french, argentinian and so on.
I truly have no idea how protein-based, doped to the brim, anti-aesthetical childish games such as baseball (no shaved latino guys there) and American F. can be called sports... Though I truly enjoyed the experiment when they put cams on every guy's helmet:)) Yeah !! That`s my idea of a sport:)) How sad no one came up with the idea to blink some ads on theit backs.
If you ask me for a truly american sport- the only thing that comes to my mind is this strange homo-wrestling thing when they jump and fake ...have no idea how you call it.
3. Before trying to talk about World War II, you might look in some history books and see how your Congress vetoed president Willson in 1919 and *beep* up the peacetalks after WW I. From there came injustice to the defeated nations, from there came Hitler and nationalism all over ..and yes- Wallstreet funded Hitler and Mussolini and gained from the death of millions of brave Americans. I will not comment your foreign policy from there on.. Just incredible how your redneck state believe your politians try all the time to do their best for your people, but OH NO- those dumbass foreign states can`t wipe their own ass and they incessantly cry for Uncle Sam's help... Thank you so much for your altruism.
4. It never stops to amaze me how Americans think of themselves as the greatest nation on Earth and in the same time 80% of you have never visited other countries. And how many languages do you know, Wolfey?:)
5. I come from the oldest nation in Europe- 14 centuries' old Bulgaria. I have nothing to thank your redneck state except maybe for that you and all the western hazar-ruled nations stabbed us in the back in 1912 and sold us to the commies 30 years later. We outlived 5 Empires -Byzanthine, Ottoman, Russian, Nazi, Soviet ...Interesting how long will you last. Though such a pleasure to kick drunken american so-called-soldiers in the streets of night Sofia
6. If you`re curious to know who saved the "european culture" ...you might look to what happenned in the years 717 and 732. No dinosaurs there, I assure you.
You know..when we growed up in a commi *beep* up state, we were so keen on everything American...then ,we came to know you, to tolerate your behaviour in our own land, to see how easy is to compete with you for places in your own universities..it became so dull to evaluate you.. keep slumbering

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[–] wolverineland 18 years ago

there is an american saying and it is, "whoever has the most toys wins!". it doesnt really matter how old your country is and how much crap you have been through. It's true we are one of the youngest countries at just a little over two centuries old but how long did it take us to reach the top of the heap? maybe 80 or 90 years give or take a decade. thanks for the bulgarian history lesson but when the world wakes up tommorow they arent going to be wondering what the bulgarians have done yesterday, today, or tommorow for that matter because when you really break it down, bulgarian, hungarian, vulgarian, its all the same place with a different goulash recipe. capitalism is what fuels america. the rest of the world may despise us but i can almost guarantee they are wearing a pair of levi's jeans and holding a bottle of coca-cola while they berate us. as far as american soldiers being in sofia or wherever it is you live, that is regular army over there because i guarantee a u.s. marine at his drunkest could whip any degenerate bohunk who tries to mess with the corps. yes its true most sports over here have been infiltrated by immigrants but that is because it is a country of immigrants. Nascar is a perfect american sport. it is capitalism at its finest and alot more entertaining than watching those formula 1 vacum cleaners you euros love so much. i am not saying i am a big fan but i love american advertising and apparently the rest of the world does too because you buy our products. boo yah!

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[–] honzarev 18 years ago

Man !! You should be studied !
Such a perfect specimen of Pax Americana ..
Nascar ?? A "perfect sport" ..?! WTF
Eat my "goulash", Wolfey
And by the way- the world is interested in the US, BECAUSE IT`S WAGING A F'''ING WAR, YOU DU''SS ID''T
I thought of proposing you to travel a little ..Maybe go some places where "capitalism" has given such remarkable feats of civilisation- like health insurance possibly.. But why should I.. Stay in your ant mole and enjoy your experiment state

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[–] Murdock-12 18 years ago

Wolverineland clearly has no knowledge of football or history.

If you check your facts, the Battle of Britain had already been won and the tide of the Second World War had turned long before the so called "Saviours of Democracy" had entered the war. Yes, the war would have been over much sooner if the money grabbing, selfish, opportunist American government had decided to intervene earlier, rather than attempting to make huge sums of money by staying out of the war and supplying us at hugely inflated prices for their own gains. However, even without the Americans the allies had managed to stop Hitler in his tracks. And anyone who knows anything about history (clearly not you, Wolverineland) knows that the real reason Hitler lost the war was down to the fact that he decided to invade Russia rather than pursue his campaign on the Western front. So really Western Europe have Hitler's over-confidence and the Russian army to thank for helping us win the war.

As for football vs. American football, I can only agree with earlier posters. Look at the global appeal of football compared with "American" football, which as far as I see is a sport which involved beating up the opposition and having a break every 10 seconds because the poor, delicate, out of shape Americans are so exhausted having to do so much exercise that they have to stop for a breather. Poor guys. Football is a sport which has served to unite cultures the world over - yes there is hooliganism, but it is a small minority of so called "fans" who get involved in that. It's terrible and it shouldn't happen, but the positives that international football beings far outweigh the negatives.

I guess you're just bitter that the US are no good at football. That's why you have to invent sports that only your country play so you can declare yourselves "World Champions" without actually having to face teams from any other countries.

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[–] wolverineland 18 years ago

Bitter that the U.S. soccer team sucks? On the contrary I want them out of the World Cup as soon as possible so we wont have to hear about soccer again for another four years. What the hell is so exciting about watching two 45 minute halves consisting of guys that all look alike running around on a field way too big and scoring in a goal as wide as a house. As far as WW2 history goes, we all know who partied hardiest on D-Day buddy. Thats right, your good ole' Uncle Sam. Believe your euro propoganda all you want because if it wasnt for us you would be getting your history lessons straight from Berlin.

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[–] Murdock-12 18 years ago

It's clear that you know very little about world history. But then, I guess that's because you don't learn any world history in American schools, do you? You spend your entire childhood (which I assume you haven't escaped from yet) learning about American history (which lets be honest, you don't have any of anyway) and pretend like the rest of the world doesn't exist. That's why the USA breeds such small-minded bigots like you. It's a shame really - I've been to the US many times and met some great people whilst I've been there. It's unfortunate that your country is let down by people like you who can't see beyond small-town America. However, you're right, the USA are such a great nation when it comes to wars. That's why you had your asses well and truly kicked by Vietnam...

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[–] wolverineland 18 years ago

I dont believe in fighting guerilla warfare on somebody elses turf. If we handled Vietnam like we did Japan the war would have ended alot sooner and alot more decisively but unfortunately we have to play police force for all you underpriviledged nations. You win some and you lose some but who is better off financially now? Yeah, thats right! U.S.A.

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[–] tintinkg 18 years ago

You win some and you lose some but who is better off financially now? Yeah, thats right! U.S.A.

Dude U owe the maximum amount of money to UN.
BTW are u telling that if Soccer is not a sport that the 9/10 of the population of the world are delusional.

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[–] highlandfraser 18 years ago

My history might be little fuzzy, but did we(the U.S.)not invade occupied France from a British-controlled Great Britain? I think the Brits did just fine before we came along. And as for your bashing of the beautiful game not being a sport, I have played both midfielder in "soccer" and linebacker in our football, and I can tell you, playing midfielder is far more demanding.

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[–] wolverineland 18 years ago

Great Britain was doing just fine on their own? Ever hear of the "Blitz"? Had Germany not taken such a turn for the worse trying to conquer Russia, I think they would have handily occupied Great Britain if the war had played out a little longer. I'm not saying they would have rolled over and surrendered like the French always do but they would have been beaten down without our help. Show pride in your nation, man!

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[–] tintinkg 18 years ago

Dude I am not British. Infact they ruled us Brutally for around 200 yrs.
But here are the facts.
OSS the precursor to CIA was establsihed with the help of MI5 & if MI5 didnt manage to convince Hilter that Russians were weak at the time & persuaded him to open up a 2nd front then both US along with UK would have been shouting Hail Hitler.

BTW this antipathy towards soccer arises from the fact that you cant just take it that Soccer is the most popular game in the world.
call it a game for Sissies or gals but still it is the game which is played by every country on earth.

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[–] bobbyklump 18 years ago

in soccer / english football, there is NO headbutting, elbowing, kneeing and so on. the slightest tap and your footballer is down crying and screaming.

the players run up and down for 90 minutes - BUT i can do that, well at least for 45 minutes WITHOUT breakin a sweat.

american football, rugby, hockey, mma, wrestling are HARD sports.

wolverineland is it true mostly little school girls play football/soccer over there in the usa?*

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[–] wolverineland 18 years ago

Yes, it is true that mostly little kids play soccer over here and then they eventually outgrow the hobby for more fufilling and challenging endeavors.

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[–] bmbaker17 18 years ago

i'd love to see either one of you try and play a full game of soccer. you wouldn't even make it 20 minutes, then you'd be limping around for weeks because you were so out of shape. soccer players (and rugby players) are the most well conditioned athletes of any sport....please, name me one other sport. so wolverine, people play soccer when they are kids and grow out of it so they can be more like you when they grow up? i don't think so. stop bashing everyone else's country, you make the US look like idiots when you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. oh and i am from the US so you can refrain from calling me some kind of racial slur.

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[–] bobbyklump 18 years ago

i will glady challenge any sissy football / soccer fan to go for a good old run around! my height is 170cm my waist is 27in inches my bmi is 19.2
i weigh 55/ 54kg. i run every day 5km (35/ 40 minutes) and swim 333meteres in 9 minutes (slow).

so who YOU 'callin gout of shape'?!

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[–] wolverineland 18 years ago

The only thing you have proven to me is that you are a Euro-shrimp. Americans dont use the metric system and hopefully never will. The fact still remains that the moral majority of Americans like myself dont like soccer and never will. Seeing some puny 5ft nothing wasp waisted little wuss running around a stadium for 90 minutes wont change my opinion.

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[–] jeffcarroll 10 years ago

You read like a girl

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[–] bobbyklump 18 years ago

hello wolverineland

I was simply pointing out that i do NOT like football or soccer! the previous post said that

'i'd love to see either one of you try and play a full game of soccer. you wouldn't even make it 20 minutes, then you'd be limping around for weeks because you were so out of shape'

I simply told that person i am NOT out of shape. i do NOT like football/ soccer.

wolverineland do you UNDERSTAND?

I prefer a real sport -female wrestling*

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[–] wolverineland 18 years ago

I call it soccer, not football or football/soccer just to placate some drunken European. I agree with you about not liking soccer but there is no room for neutrality in my posts.

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[–] bobbyklump 18 years ago

wolverineland -why dont you take a chill pill and stop getting your nickers in twist.

instead of pulling pints or eating cheesburgers GO and do some lats, pull ups, chin up and press ups.

if you got the guts, come down north london and i'll give you a run for your money . o.k BIG BOY

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[–] HashRouge 18 years ago

Wolverineland, just to clarify, you think the US should have dealt with Vietnam the way they did Japan? What, drop nuclear bombs and kill hundreds of thousands of people? You sick person.
If you think football is a 'sissy' sport, you would obviously have actually enjoyed this world cup. There were various headbutts, shoves, punches and fights on pitch. The rest of us thought it was a discrace, but I'm sure you would have loved it.

When the world is run by fools it is the duty of intelligence to disobey

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[–] mikeyg24 18 years ago

Wolverineland I find it hard to believe you have the cheek to say football isn't a sport when the four main American sports are recycled british games. Cricket was changed to Baseball, Ice Hockey was devised by British soldiers who wanted to play field hockey in the cold climates they were stationed at. Basketball is a direct descendant from the Brits net ball and last but not least American football is a third hand sport. Soccer became Rugby and Rugby became American football. Oh and while I'm at it the reason we call it football is that it is predominantly played with your foot. So the next time you judge another nations sport in favour of your own remember that all the American sports are chiefly British sports with the added American appetite for destruction.

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[–] cedron 18 years ago

In soccer there is nothing entertaining about watching some little Mexican dude or some pasty Brit roll around all over the field because they got tripped and humiliated in front of a stadium of 100,000 drunken maniacs
That could be the point of view of a 9 years kid.

I am not a fan of rugby or gaelic football but at least I can appreciate them as full contact sports where one truly gets injured participating in.
Wolverineland doesn't know what is soccer about because car crash could be a sport according to him( or her)!

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[–] JamesMum01 18 years ago

Romans,Greece, French, Germans, Austro-hungary, Russia, Japan, Britain. All world powers at one point or another in history.
Yes USA is the current number one state at but enjoy it while it lasts because you will fall eventually.

Beware US China is catching you fast!

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[–] franki_mcdonald 15 years ago

Necro post, but dear god man, shuttup. Lets face it, in 'dubbya dubbya 2' you had numbers. Sheer numbers, Bigger nation can produce bigger population. Simple physics. Now as for speaking German, if your gonna be that way, learn spanish/portugese. Most people on that continent speak it, drop our language.

On the topic of sports:

American Football, when does the ball touch the foot? Should be called handball or rugby for girls.

Ice hockey, stolen from the canadians (good lads they are), but essentially a girls sport on ice.

Baseball, at my school the girls played rounders, which was like baseball but with a smaller bat. Whos the girls now?

American pool, same as english pool, but bigger balls and pockets. Syurely its easier that way. Bigger is better fatty.

Basketball = netball with running

Sort you life out wolverineland. Think your USMC are badasss, ever here of the SAS? Twat

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[–] scabab 14 years ago

US will always put Football down for the simple fact they are terrible at it.American Football is just a bad version of Rugby. Instead of being about skill and winning they care more about making money off of products, the 4 main US sports are weak, US doesn't care about Football, the World doesn't care about any of their sports.How many Hockey or American Football players would anyone know outside US, nobody, Baseball, a few may know Babe Ruth, Basketball Michael Jordon.These people put Football down but consider Monster Track Rallys a sport, Bikes jumping off a ramp and someone falling is a sport, WWE is considered a sport despite it being scripted. With Football you can play in the park with friends, most Americans are way too unfit to ever do something like that so they dont care about proper sports just brainless crap.

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[–] stefzed54 14 years ago

Don't listen to the guy above, he's just been released from the mental hospital.

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[–] ChickNLittle 14 years ago

US will always put Football down for the simple fact they are terrible at it.

And yet we still managed to tie mighty England a couple of days ago. Funny thing is: we send our 3rd and 4th rate athletes to play in a sport that nobody in America cares about, and they still manage a tie against the best athletes from England, where soccer is the national pastime? How humiliating!

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[–] coventrycitynil 18 years ago

Dear dear me. Ive done alot of laughig whilst reading all these posts. Why its become a political debate is beyond me, considering it sarted off with a very odd comment about Football (or soccer) and the fact that 'Escape to Victory' sucked, which fair enough...it did. But to call it not a sport is...quite frankly baffling.

Wolverineland, your not by any chance wearing a Stetson are you, and chewing tobacco and married to your cousin and own a shotgun...see what im doing, im generalising you as an american, just like you generalized all footballers as people that dive and fake injury. I love football, and admittedly there is starting to appear alot more of the diving and faking, but most real football fans hate it, its mainly the new young and overpaid stars that do that. Real footballers, who you will find playing low level football in any local park in any town in Britain every saturday and sunday morning, could give any pretentious overpaid hot headed teenage punk who has just been drafted from school to the big time NFL so he can score with women, a run for his money, give him a soccer ball (see what i did then, said soccer so you would understand me) and the brits who play football for free because they enjoy it, would kick the crap out of him.

You also seem to have a thing about it not being a real sport because people dont get injured (so you say...all i'll say is David Buust) so on that basis, the current situation in Iraq is a sport to you? Because im certain people get injured over there. Tell me, do your soliders have sponsors and numbers on their Army uniform, or ask the opposition to stop firing for 2 minutes while a commercial is ran? It wouldnt suprise me, and the Army training program in USA, how does that work? Do they just huddle up and decide not to pick the fat kid with glasses, and then slap each others butts in celebration every time their Seargent Major nails them in the ass?

I watch American Football, appriciate the fact that its a tough game, understand the rules and am an avid player of 'Madden 07'. Ice Hockey, whilst its technically a Canadien sport, which isnt the point, again im a massive fan, and actually played it while i was in Montreal. Baseball...hmmm rather boring. Basketball, exciting for maybe two periods, but gets monotonous after that. I also love it in America, and in my years have met some fantastic American people. You however dont seem to be a person i would like, with quite frankly narrow minded opinions of a sport you seem to know nothing about, which you have used as the basis to form an attack on Europe as a whole. Come and visit us, its nice over hear, you know, just go into Burger King and have a Budweiser or two, you'll feel right at home. Soccer my un-educated friend, is a sport, and when played properly, a very skillful one that is very exciting to watch. Played at its best, its an absolute joy to watch. Seriously, get the cable channel that runs it and Watch Manchester United (ignore Christiano Ronaldo as he fits your stereotype) Arsenal, Chelsea, you will see that its a fast paced, exciting game, whether i can convince you that no one has to get hurt, im not sure.

Nevermind, we'll make a soccer fan out of you yet.

And by the way, You have only heard of David Beckham because of his show biz persona. He's not as good as he's made out to be, He's actually a bit of a Flash git who i dont particularly like, but please dont let him ruin the image of the sport i love.

"What? The Curtains?"

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[–] jaskaggs80 18 years ago

You know, I think arguments over sports gets people hotter than almost anything else.

This whole thread was pretty funny. It is fairly obvious that most posters haven't played the sport they're are bashing.

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[–] Joker-26 17 years ago

Lads lads lads you shouldnt be rising to this ignorant Yank. Let them play their gridiron with ads every 2 minutes and overweight 'athletes' covered in body armour pounding each other. Seems more like a never ending commercial interspersed with a bunch of fat oafs running into each other. No one else in the rest of the world could possibly be interested in this ridiculous sport.

Basketball & Baseball have more global appeal it's true but compared to football are still tiny sports that induce yawns and more yawns tbh. If the Americans played footie as well as they bomb & invade small countries, they'd be perenial World Cup favourites!

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[–] BRONSONasHARMONICA 16 years ago

If theres a North American sport i'd like to see more off it is "Ice hockey"

Tough bastards that love a fight and are very athletic.

But i want to see the real elite, not the 2 bit failures or retirees that they have in teams over here.

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