My question concerns a specific part of the movie. From about 01:16:35 to 01:16:40 when Max von Sydow sits down to talk to another officer at the stadium, there seem to a black man dressed in a german officers uniform sitting right behind them. That, or he just tanned himself for six months straight. Can anyone else see this? I can't tell for sure.
Are you serious??? The nazis HATED blacks!!! Even the Americans didn't allow Blacks to go to war never mind be commissioned officers and they were the good guys.
Second bomb went down after Japanese nation's beloved emperor declined to surrender, apparently not being impressed enough after seeing what the first bomb did. Please remember that.
My parents, all my aunts and uncles lived at that time (real world).
I know it's debatable whether it was justified among theologians but the rest of the population including my relatives believed that it WAS because if we didn't we-the Americans and probably the rest of the Allied forces-were going to invade Japan herself.
This would have cost the lives of up to a million Americans and according to one estimate have extended the war for at least another ten years.
As a matter of fact, yes, they were. The US saved the world. They pretty much supplied the Allies in Europe and were the main force on the Western Front and pretty much beat the Japanese by themselves.
Life is pain. Anyone who says differently is selling something.
"Americans didn't allow Blacks to go to war never mind be commissioned officers..."
Tell that to the hundreds of blacks that went to Europe and worked at transportation and quartermaster depots... to those blacks that manned the trucks of the Red Ball Express and the like... to the Tuskeegee Airmen... and the men of the 614th and 761st Tank Destroyer Battalions...
When on holiday in Italy with my mother in the late 1970s, I saw several women who would tan to that extent. They, and this chap, undoubtedly all perished from skin cancers that we now know how to protect against. No mention of SPF in those days!
""Americans didn't allow Blacks to go to war never mind be commissioned officers..."
Tell that to the hundreds of blacks that went to Europe and worked at transportation and quartermaster depots... to those blacks that manned the trucks of the Red Ball Express and the like... to the Tuskeegee Airmen... and the men of the 614th and 761st Tank Destroyer Battalions... "
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When you send them to fight in a war, they say things like: "Uh oh, they exploit the black people to kill yellow/red people in the wars of white people". When you don't send them to fight in a war they still keep bitching because they feel racially oppressed. Is there a possible way to satisfy them and finally stop playing the race card?
When you send them to fight in a war, they say things like: "Uh oh, they exploit the black people to kill yellow/red people in the wars of white people". When you don't send them to fight in a war they still keep bitching because they feel racially oppressed. Is there a possible way to satisfy them and finally stop playing the race card?
What are you talking about? That has to be one of the most ignorant statements I've read in a while? "Playing" the race card? Blacks got wise after WWII and said *beep* Korea and Nam! Learn your history. From the so-called War Of Independance to WWII Black men WILLINGLY lined up to fight. Just because WHITE officers and government officials were so caught up in their IRRATIONAL racism that's on them! I've been to Iraq and wouldn't give a flying *freep* what COLOR the man was backing me up! Just help my ass and I'll help you. The "race card"? Just because your "ancestors" thought that Blacks,Asians and whoever else were ALWAYS going to be on the low end of the totem pole and left your generation holding the bag don't get mad with us. Lol! All of this *beep* about "white guilt" WTF??? If a Black guy kills a nun out in LA,do I feel guilty here in Queens? Nope. I may feel for the nun and the stigma that the guys family will have to carry,but do I feel PERSONALLY guilty? Nope. Nada. Not one damn iota. "White guilt" indeed. If you haven't done anything harmful why should you feel guilty? Or is it another case of "they" keep Whites feeling obligated. Always "they". Dummy.
Actually there were Black officers. Benjamin O. Davis,SR. Brigadier General,Benjamin O. Davis Jr. Colonel (temporary in 1944,permanent in 1950)Major Charles L. Thomas (MOH posthumously) First Lieutenant Vernon Baker another MOH awardee,...no commissioned officers? I have MORE where that came from. And lets not forget the Tuskegee Airmen who as pilots were ALL officers. Not trying to insult you but this is why I ALWAYS encourage people to do research for themselves. And not just take things at face value.Blacks as much as anyone else and maybe above most others were ALWAYS willing to fight for a country that treated them like dirt. And THAT is a FACT.Eventhough it was the epitome of hypocrisy.
What alot of people are not taught in school is that the Nazi's did have Afro-Germans in their ranks. They were disliked but not by all Nazi's. There were also, Asians, Arabs and other nationalities in the ranks of the nazi's. Do alittle research people...
I was watching the Military History Channel, and when things started heading south for the Nazi's and SS, they Goerhing (sp?) changed the requirements for SS troopers, and had a unit of Muslim SS members from occupied Central Europe. Their uniform had them wearing fezes with swatstika's on them.
My father and five uncles served in the segregated American Navy and Army during World War Two. I had two great-uncles serve in the segregated Army in World War One. My great-grandfather served in the segregated Army in the Spanish_American War and the Phillipine insurrection of the early 1900's. BTW, many black people who lived in Europe during the Third Reich ended up in both interment and concentration camps. An African-American singer, Valaida Snow, spent a few years in an interment camp for alien nationals. Several Africans from the former German colonies were sent to concentration camps were they subjected to the same brutalities and experiments as Jews, Slavs and Communists. And God help any German mulattoes who weren't able to escape once the Nazis came to power!
Nazis hated Jews the most, but tell that to all the OTHER six million "undesirables who didn't fit into the Assyrian mold who were also systematically killed in the camps but no one EVER mentions THEM.
At leasy one black man won the iron cross, second class. No blacks in the SS or Nazi's, but in the German Army many were recruited from the former Deutsch-Südwestafrika (Namibia). There was a problem in UK when black US soldiers were drinking in pubs with white US soldiers, as the white US complained and wanted to be segregated. It had to be taken to government level for Churchill and Roosevelt to agree that british pubs could not be segregated and the US forces deciding which were "white" pubs and which "black". There was even fighting in some pubs between US MP's and civilians when they tried to remove black soldiers. Oh yes there were blacks in the US forces in both world wars. It is nice to think that black people first realised that they were equal when serving their country in UK.
I really don't believe their were any black nazi's over the years I have seen so many documentarys about the Nazi's the history channel seems to never stop showing them, but never once have I seen or even heard of a black nazi, ever. Nazi's yes hated the Jews the most but they hated everyone that wasnt white, everyone they wanted to purify the human race and only have white germans left especially blonde hair and blue eyes, thats why they mass raped the Norwegian women to create a master race (even the brunette one from ABBA's mother was one of these
There were up to 14,000 children of such liaisons in Norway. Some were the progeny of SS chief Heinrich Himmler's Lebensborn ('fountain of life') plan to produce a master-race of blondhaired Aryans.
Under this perverted scheme, special houses were established throughout Germany and occupied Europe, including in Norway, where SS officers mated with selected women.
Princess Michael of Kent's father, SS major Baron Gunther von Reibnitz, is alleged to have been party to the project. Others were simply the result of the kind of love affair of convenience that war engenders. Frida was one of those.
I really don't believe their were any black nazi's over the years I have seen so many documentarys about the Nazi's the history channel seems to never stop showing them, but never once have I seen or even heard of a black nazi, ever.
Well, first of all, you shouldn't believe everything you see on government controlled TV. It's often lies and as they say: History is written by the Winners. I bet, if you watch russian, american, german documentaries about World War 2, they will each deliver a different picture. I've seen quite a few american WW2 documentaries. Not one of it ever mention the downside of the allied soldiers, all the rapings, the lootings, the murder they committed during the end-stage of WW2 and even afterwards. I guess it would be too shocking, after all, the allied soldiers, especially the americans, were the good guys, the knights in shining armour so to say. While in a russian documentary you will see those old Soldiers smiling happily away, declaring that they were the winners and they took what they deserved. For them a day without a raped woman and a killed german was a lost day. It's actually interesting, how much the "truth" differs from country to country, especially when it comes to the second world war.
As for black nazis: Black people were extremely despised by the NSDAP and seen as a subhuman race. Several thousand black people lived in Germany and the Nazis had the plan, once they conquered all, to take back the Colonies Germany once had in Africa and use those black people as workers. After Germany lost the war with Russia it was obvious that it is over, so they just sent most of the black people to the death camps.
Yes I will admit most of the documentaries where done by English people, I dont know why I would even bother watching American documentaries about it as they only bother to get involved when we Brits had been fighting for 3 years already. But I have seen Russian documentaries about it, with actual Russian women who where in their villages when the German's came in and raped all their women and beat and killed a lot of them, and then them talking about how thankful they were when the English soldiers came and killed the Germans and fed them. it was all in Russian with subtitles, it was a great viewpoint to hear from these Russian women who had survived it all. I believe if they had also been raped by allied soldiers they wouldnt have spoke about them with such joy on their faces when they spoke of their rescue.
I wish you could have gave me links to anything you mentioned, documentaries that I can download or something, I read the link you posted, which just further goes to show they didnt admit black people, as I had previously stated. It was interesting to see a black youth also brainwashed by the Nazi party, just as German and Poland was with Hitler's lies, a lot of the people who helped vote them in and voted to join Poland to them were the Jews who later died.
You're a Dope and having read the replies that follow they're all bloody dopes
The gentleman is obviously of Indian{as in Asia} extraction and there were thousands of them fighting for the NAZIs during WW2, particularly in an attempt to rid India of the "British Raj" rule