In BBT Mayim Bialik argues that Indy's presence is totally irrelevant to the plot of the movie since in the end the Nazis get the ark, open it and die anyway. I think this is a significant writing flaw from a dramaturgical point of view and seriously hurts the Indy character.
What do you think?
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I think you're wrong. And so is that idiot, Amy, who clearly didn't pay attention to the film.
I've already proven Amy wrong on this subject.
I've already proven Amy wrong on this subject.
She isn't correct. Without Indy, the ark would've never been obtained by the US at the end. So the fate of the ark was still decided by Indy at the end of all.
shareWithout Indy, the ark would've never been obtained by the US at the end.
The US probably didn't even know of the existence of that place, much less that the ark had been taken there. The nazis would've been killed and then a different nazi batallion would've gotten to the island and get ahold of the ark.
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shareNot even close. Without Indy, the Nazi's would have recovered the Ark, even with all of the ones on the island being killed. They still would have had the ark. The point was to keep the ark away from the Nazi's and Indy accomplished that.
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If there was no Indy the Nazis would never have found the ark to begin with for them to open it.
And so, God came forth and proclaimed widescreen is the best.
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If there was no Indy the Nazis would never have found the ark to begin with for them to open it.That's wrong.
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What's funny is that without INDY the nazis would have likely kept opening the Ark, getting destroyed again and again. Thus INDY may have inadvertently saved Nazi Germany!
IT'S A TRAP!!!
First of all The Big Bang Theory is overrated crap. (Had to say it)
Second, Toht only got hold of the medallion in order to unearth the Ark because he followed Indy to Marion's in Nepal.
And even if they would have found Marion without Indy, Indy saved her life by been there so he played a part in the plot.
Fly? Yes. Land? No.
First of all The Big Bang Theory is overrated crap. (Had to say it)
Second, Toht only got hold of the medallion in order to unearth the Ark because he followed Indy to Marion's in Nepal.
And even if they would have found Marion without Indy, Indy saved her life by been there so he played a part in the plot.
but it is not crap.
You know is crap, that "Back To The Future" movie ughh
but once that happens his involvement in the plot is done
My smile after my back to the future comment was meant to indicate I was just taking a jab and it was not meant as a serious statement. I looked at your post history and just found something you liked.
but once that happens his involvement in the plot is done
Well it isn't because as others have said all over this board countless times, he was the one who actually unearthed the ark while the Nazis had been digging in the wrong place.
Except that if they don't follow Indy, they don't get the headpiece in the first place.
Plus you are overlooking the overall theme: preventing the Nazi's from getting the ark in the first place. On that, he was successful.
Except that if they don't follow Indy, they don't get the headpiece in the first place.
Second, Toht only got hold of the medallion in order to unearth the Ark because he followed Indy to Marion's in Nepal.
You are correct but once that happens his involvement in the plot is done.
Plus you are overlooking the overall theme: preventing the Nazi's from getting the ark in the first place. On that, he was successful.
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"The key is that at the end the Nazi's had the Ark, Indy failed to prevent them from having it".
But he did not. Just by being there and survive, Indy assured the fate of the ark. Without him being at the site, the only thing that could've happened is that a different nazi battalion would've gotten ahold of the ark in the following weeks.
He was also suppose to get it for the museum which he failed to do and at first it was suppose to be opened in Berlin in front of Hitler. Just think Indy saved Hitler isnt that wonderful
share"It might be overrated, a lot of things get that way once they become popular but it is not crap."
"You know is crap, that "Back to the Future" movie ughh :)"
Am I supposed to take you seriously after that?
It would be just as easy to say that the Nazis were irrelevant. Indy sets out to get the Ark. He finds the medallion, finds the Ark, and brings the Ark back to the States. If the Nazis had never shown up, the results would have been the same.
Oh sure, I suppose you could say that Indy wouldn't have known where the city of Tanis was without the Nazis, but if you can dismiss Indy leading the Nazis to the medallion, then you can also dismiss the Nazis leading Indy to Tanis.
Actually, Indy wanted to bring it back for the museum. That was very important to him. But the government men decided to stash it away in a warehouse where nobody would have access to it, so if anyone made all of Indy's efforts irrelevant, it was the USA.
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