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How much of the 70's - 80's slang is still used in Australia?




I'm American. I enjoyed the film a lot, and the more I watched it. The slang and accents are a bit TOUGH to understand at first but the more one watches the film, the more the speech patters set in and can be understood by outsiders.

I have a question and it is this: HOW MUCH OF THE SLANG SPOKEN IN THE FILM, is still used today by teens from that neighborhood of Sydney?
Are fast and loose girls still called "Molls"?
Is the slang for F-able still the word, "rootable"?
Is the word "deadset" still used to mean Truth, or are you telling the truth?
Does the word, "dob" still mean snitch or tell on someone?

Thanks, for any helpful replies anyone can give to me.

Also, if you know what the lead actors (the folks who played Debbie, Sue, Gary, Cheryl, Tracy) in the film are doing nowadays, I would love to know that as well.

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I live in Cronulla where the movie was filmed and a couple of the things you mentioned are still used. People still say 'dob' but it's mainly little kids, saying 'I'll dob on you' or 'I'll tell on you'. Deadset is sometimes used, but usually by more bogan people. I don't really know how to explain the word bogan to you because i can't think of the American equivalent. Sorry. People hardly ever use the word root, but sometimes it still comes out. Moll is never heard anymore.

And I don't know anything about any of the actors. Sorry.

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ohhsea:

Gotcha!

Slang comes and goes, doesn't it?

A bogan is what we'd call a "hick", or "hayseed". You know, like ... a nerd, who dresses all wrong, wears too much makeup, and looks hopeless, hahaha. Kind of country and not very posh, sophisticated or ... classy, really.

See here, for example: http://www.bogan.com.au/definition/index.php

Try not to gossip about who / what you don't know. Harsh words can be cruelly speculative.

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Also, I'm guessing that using "moll " now, where you are would be like our saying "groovy", or "dynamite" or slang that used to be around 40 years ago, or so.

Do people still say "unreal" as a positive superlative?

HERE we all say, "Awesome"!

Try not to gossip about who / what you don't know. Harsh words can be cruelly speculative.

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Another type of people you could compare bogans to are the "white trash" or "trailer trash" people in America, if that helps.

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towelie,

Oh yeah .. I've already figured out what a "Bogan" is, thanks.

I am really curious as to which words, SPECIFICS PLEASE, from the film are still used in Sydney, or in Surfie culture at all:


Moll?
Deadset?
Doll?
Perf?
Bludge?
Brickie (for bricklayer)?
How'd you go off with ....?
Reckon?
Heaps?
Dob?
Root? ( I reckon root is not used at all, eh?)

And, do girls still get 18K friendship rings from the guys?

And, are more girls surfing now?

Oh gosh, I can't think of all the slang right now ... But, tell me what words have gone out of favor, in Sydney and what words you all still hear being used, even if only from time to time (and not very often)

Thanks, HEAPS!

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I don't know about Sydney, but in general words like bludge, brickie, dob, heaps and root are part of common parlance, depending on your social circles..

Actually, root probably isn't used much, but people are still aware of the Australian sense of the word relative to the American, because the Australian equivalent of 'root' is 'barrack'.




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Actually, root probably isn't used much, but people are still aware of the Australian sense of the word relative to the American, because the Australian equivalent of 'root' is 'barrack'.


Hang on, I think you might be confused. "Root" is not an American slang term. It's Aussie -- was used in the film, to mean *F* (can't write it here, of course). So, there is no technical Aussie equivalent of "root" because it IS a strictly Aussie term. There are American equivalents to the slang for Eff, but not yours. Sorry, am I being confusing? I usually am.

Is "barrack" now used in place of root, eh?

Or, do you mean that "barrack" is the more modern-day slang for "root" which was used way back when?

Also, may I take it that you don't live in Sydney?

Also, do the girls still wear crocheted bikinis? (Hehe)

And, I just thought of this: In America we say "unreal" a lot indicating extreme like for something, or someone, but usually a something or piece of clothing. We also use "awesome", HEAPS! "Awesome and Unreal are terms kids or the younger set mainly use, and grownups of the usually lower social classes -- NOT bogans, per se, just any class lower than upper (at least where I live and came from ...)

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Just clarifying,

'Barrack' in australia, is used where 'root' is used in america.
So, someone would 'barrack' for their favourite footy team, while an american would 'root' for them. I'm sure you can see, given the other meaning of root, why it's not used in that context much here in oz.

Also, I use 'awesome' heaps too. Not unreal though, it sounds dated.

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Ohhh, I see oska494 . Thank you.

Yes, here we say that we root (or cheer for) our favorite sports teams for example, whereas you would not. Yes, I see. I thought the other poster was still talking about root meaning the vulgar slang for "to *F*" someone.

Many people still say "un-reaaaaal" here. Or, we say "surreal" too for something being ever so awesome that it is unbelievably so.

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Most of your questions were answered, but the term moll was brought back a couple of years ago thanks to a contestant on Australian Big Brother, she was being picked on a bit and said "game on molls/moles" and it became big again including t-shirts and car stickers. It has since died down again.

As for girls surfing, yes, and it is not just for the young ones, where I surf the oldest lady is about 70. I myself am 39 and I usually go out with my teenage daughter. Also Layne Beachly was the #1 female surfer in world for 7 years straight and there are a lot more coming up on the world circuit.

Also from interest the book/movie is being made into a musical - keep in touch and i will let you know how it goes.


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amoc71,

Interesting to know. Thanks!

A musical? Huh .... seems odd to me.

The more Ken Loach films I see, the more I think they need English subtitles.

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Well I say moll alot when I see sluts and uglies around, if your still reading this "barrack" also means to "root" for a particular team, like football, baseball, soccar team, like you "barrack" for that team, we don't use root for f#$k anymore, not that I've heard of anyway.

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natalie,

So (just curious) what word do you use, nowadays, to mean fS#k then?

( Yeah, in America we say "Root" to mean cheer, as in 'I'm rooting for that team', or ... )

To us, root = cheer



The more Ken Loach films I see, the more I think they need English subtitles.

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I have to say this is one of the more curious threads on IMDB

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Dead,

Why thank you, I think ... ...

Not being Aussie, and wanting to be kept up to date on what's what down thatta-way in terms of the spoken argot, I thought I'd start this somewhat different thread, ...

If you can teach me a thing or two about Aussie slang, that is used now-a-days, please feel free to. KNOWLEDGE is welcomed.



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sorry, im australian and NONE of these sayings are used anymore where im from unless you're bogan and/or really working class (to put it bluntly). even people out in the country rarely talk like this anymore.

mole came back into fashion briefly after a contestant used it on one season on big brother. its quite a gross term anyway, not many people use it.

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sorry, im australian and NONE of these sayings are used anymore where im from unless you're bogan and/or really working class (to put it bluntly).


No apology is necessary.
May I assume that "bogan" means Hick, Country Bumpkin or some such?

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I'm from Perth and wouldn't have a clue about Sydney or the surfer crowd, but:

I've never heard anyone say:
Perf?
How'd you go off with ....?
Deadset?

I hear these occasionally (mostly from the 'older' generation; like my mum, who is 40):
Moll?
Doll?
Brickie (for bricklayer)?

I hear these constantly:
Bludge?
Reckon?
Heaps?
Dob? - mostly said in primary school. I still say it sometimes, but mostly in a jokey sort of way.
Root?

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DaveHedgeHog,

Haha, love your "Screenie", mate!
Your response is very, very helpful. THANK you!

Great to know how slang endures or ... as the case may be, dies.

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sliat,

Surely you aren't speaking or referring to me !
I am not delusional. Just grateful for all the help and input.

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Yeah just like anywhere, the nameing words of the slang have changed, but the meanings haven't.

Guess nowadays instead of mole, it's whore/slut ... and so on.
But like America, different states here, and different cities/towns will have different slang words.

Ironically enough, one slang that gets thrown around as being Australian, was one that was only ever used by Paul hogan, on his tv show. Yet as a nation we got stuck with it ...

anyway fwiw, they are making a tv show or series about this, will be interesting to see how close they stick to the books/movie ...

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community,

Haha, they're making a TV series about "Puberty Blues"? Cool! I'd watch were I there, so keen on the film do I remain .

Took me a beat or two to figure out what fwiw meant (For What It's Worth), LOL

Now, I wonder who'll they'll cast for the telly show. Maybe the kids who played Sue and Debbie in the film will be cast to play the "olds" (aka, The Parental Units) in the TV series???

It'd be nice to see Jad Capella again, somewhere. I can't find out anything about here on the 'net, btw. Do you reckon she's still around / still living?

About Paul Hogan: No worries, because most of we Yanks knew he was a huuuuge caricature anyway! We didn't think you all reallllllly talked that wierd, hehe.

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community,

Do come back here and report on who they've cast for the telly show, please. I'd be interested to know who's who and what they've done down your way.

Also, do you think that the word, "Moll" came from the expression, a Gangster's Moll or some such? And, is it spelt "mole" or "moll", too?


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You can find the information about the TV show on imdb.

Yes, it is the same word moll meaning hooker etc.

I am in Melbourne and hear root all the time, but it does have a more gross connotation/said almost jokingly a lot of the time. Perhaps cos it's mostly guys I hear saying it and they are generally talking about random chicks.

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Thank you, amochipper. I reallllllly enjoyed the film so very much, and took to all the cultural references. So, anything I can learn about how stuff, from the film, still applies today is inordinately helpful and ... well, fun!


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perf? I think you mean perv, which is short for pervert.

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quert8-1,

Perf = Perfect

Perv = Pervert.

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Oh, and does the "quert" in you username come from Querty, as in the type of keyboard?

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yes it does mean that. Does Dogtowngirl reference Lords of Dogtown, which is a great movie.

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Why yes, it does! .

Thanks for asking.

I have an affinity with the film that I greatly enjoyed (saw Emile in person in 2006 when he was in Seattle filming scenes for the film "INto the Wild". Bumped smack dab into Sean Penn as well). Hirsch was absolutely gorgeous to behold, but, socially he was quite awkward!

I also have an affinity with skating (both ice and skate-boarding) as well as the whole surf culture and ethic.



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One of my favourite movies, Heath is great. I surfed and skated also, had a surf shack in the national park, just south of Cronulla where they filmed Puberty Blues, great memories. Also like your version of PETA.

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quert8-1,

Well ... *sighs* Heath was great, wasn't he?

He's doing his thang up and o'er the rainbow, methinks, so ... it ain't all bad.

Haha, my sig yeah ... Well, I'd love to say I made it up but I got it from none other than -- wait for it -- Ted Nugent who ranted about PETA in an interview he gave many years back.

Oh, and didja see the ABC interview with Nell Schofield posted in YT?
It should be on this board / linked.



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yeah I saw Nells interview, she is highley regarded in the industry even tho her career never did anything. Poor ol Jad, no one escapes unharmed from mental illness, the fact that she was living at Kings Cross shows that she was at the end of the line, that place is freak central.

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Oh, splendid! Glad you saw it ...

I know nothing of Sydney's 'hoods, so King's Cross means nothing to me. Now, by "freak central" do you mean filled with druggies, poor folks, homeless, working poor or ... what? Fill me in, please. Thanks!

Poor people and homeless folks don't bother me, by the way. I understand that they do a lot of folks, but, I've lived with them as neighbours for so long, that ...

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Kings Cross is the gangland capital of australia, filled with drugs, prostitutes and weirdos. I had a mate travel around the world and visit the hotspots and he reckon the worst freaks he came across were at Kings Cross. :)

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Thank you, quert! Appreciated. Interesting to know.


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Can't speak as a teenager, but I think your entire list is still alive...not sure whether amongst teenagers, but at least amongst older Australians...and not in a cringe-inducing, ostentatious kind of way (e.g. Australians who on boards like this or in the media try and sell a 'more Australian than Australian' kind of lingo...and which you never hear those words or phrases in ordinary conversation!):

moll

root

deadset - e.g. you might hear someone say of a footballer, for instance, "He's a deadset legend". In fact, there is a commercial FM music station with a programme called...

http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne/shows/dead-set-legends/

...the interesting thing about that show name is...that there are different cities in the country which have their own show of that name...different hosts ect.

dob

P.S.

I recently posted up a review on this movie and a couple of slang phrases threw me:

vos tossa

Don't Bogart it

In my review, I hazard a guess what these refer to.

Lastly, can you help with my music question here?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082956/board/thread/234713111?d=234713111 #234713111

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