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Retro-Review/Appreciative Remembrance in the Wall Street Journal


Peter Tonguette had a nice review of MDWA in the June 11, 2021 issue of the Wall Street Journal. It summed the film up thusly:

Perhaps it is most instructive to think of “My Dinner with Andre” as akin to a great song: The dialogue serves as the lyrics but [the director Louis] Malle’s peerless technique, with its sublime sensitivity to atmosphere, surely provides the music. We are stimulated by this film not just for its ideas but for its mood...


https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-film-where-talk-is-richly-satisfying-11623446776

I watched the film as a teen expecting to be admitted to an erudite discussion between adults on weighty life and/or metaphysical matters but felt let down by the dialogue. It didn’t occur to me to appreciate the artistry of the film but Mr. Tonguette‘s review has me thinking I should give it another try. I recently watched Hitchcock’s “Notorious” for the first time and felt that the plot and dialogue were nothing special but was floored by the artistry of the film. So perhaps I am ready to appreciate MDWA on a different level. I really like Wallace Shawn. I can hardly look at his mug without smiling.

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Thanks so much for posting the link to that article.

Yes, you may find MDWA different & more engaging on a second viewing. For me, it's not just what they talk about--although that's fascinating to me, as it always sparks new ideas & thoughts whenever I watch the film again--but it's also how they talk. They actually listen to each other with interest, wanting to understand what the other is saying, rather than just waiting for a chance to jump in & refute it. Oh, they disagree, but they never become insulting or bitterly angry with each other.

There's also a lot of humor in their conversation. Andre Gregory the actor is sometimes sending up the artistic pretensions of "Andre Gregory" the character--affectionately, but knowingly. He agrees with what he's saying, but he can also see the amusing or absurd side of it, too. He's serious, but never ponderously solemn.

And while Wally says almost nothing during the first part of their conversation, he's giving a masterclass in non-verbal response to what he's hearing, as shown by the constant shifting of his expressions: amazed, bewildered, dubious, flustered, absorbed, curious, outraged.

I'd also call attention to things like background sounds, as when a police siren punctuates Andre's talk about preserving culture & art & civilization. Or how the other diners slowly disappear as the evening moves forward. And moments with their waiter, whose expressions also speak volumes. His eyebrows speak volumes!

When you do watch it again, I hope you'll post your reaction to that second viewing!

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Thanks for your thoughtful reply. It may be a while before I get around to it, but I certainly will post again with my thoughts on a second viewing.

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Hahaha, I have seen that movie maybe 20 times, maybe more. For some reason I always liked it. I got my whole crew at work at the time ... when it came out to go see it. We all had fun and they liked it ... some thought it weird, but it was a good bonding experience.

Recently in reading Woody Allen's biography, he mentioned that Louis Malle wanted Woody to play the Wally Shawn part .. which is hilarious ... that would have been terrible. But Wally has been in a number of Woody's movies.

There was a follow-ion documentary about the movie ... I forget the name now, but about Andre.

This is a Louis Malle masterpiece.

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I believe it's Andre Gregory: Before and After Dinner, if memory serves.

And I agree, MDWA is a masterpiece, one that rewards repeated viewings over the years.

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I think so ... I drove two hours to the North Bay to see that at the Sonoma Film Festival. It was fun.

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It is a great movie, but it doesn't appeal to everyone. I love these dialog type movies. Another one is "Mindwalk" ... both hard to find.

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Yes, Mindwalk! At least MDWA is available on DVD, Blu-Ray, and streaming. The best we can do for Mindwalk is to catch it on YouTube. Many years ago, I converted my VHS copy to homemade DVD, but that's the best I've got for the time being. It really would make a great Criterion release.

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I copied MW off YouTube, but it was pretty fuzzy. Why is that movie so hard to find? And why is there not a DVD release for that movie, or why is it not even on streaming services? I think there is a big market for movies like that.

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Yes, a lot of us are hungry for movies of real substance!

I re-watch Mindwalk every so often, and find that so much of what they were talking about some 30 years ago now, is even more timely & pressing. Just as so much of what Wally & Andre talked about some 40 years ago now is equally more timely & pressing.

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